Smooth 30fps source in mostly 24p project

[Nick Meyers]

thinking laterally:

open the shots in Cinema Tools, and conform them to 24fps, or 23.98 i suppose, which is what 24p is

this will slow them down slightly, but you will have no motion weirdness at all,

and with chopper shots, the slight slowing down could be good.

nick

[Graeme Nattress]

However, as they’re normal NTSC video, which is 60 field interlaced per second, you’re going to see really funky interlace artifacts if you just conform.

If youw ant a nice mapping of such video to a 24p timeline, you must do something about the interlace.

3 options:

1) use the Film Converter plugin as you’ve tried. This can be tweaked to give it the look you want – email me.
2) de-interlace first, then conform in cinema tools to 23.98fps.
3) use G Map Frames in the Standards Converter which will give you wonderful 40% slowmo footage, which might not be what you want, but will look lovely.

Graeme

– http://www.nattress.com – Film Effects and Standards Conversion for FCP

[Salvatore]

Thanks for the tips!

We tried tweaking the plug-ins as suggested. We tried deinterlace & conform. Both results looks pretty blurry / choppy.
Before we capture from the mini DV tape (a dub of a Beta SP tape) in FCP 4.5 (we captured at 10-bit Uncompressed 4:2:2) the image in the capture window is clear & crisp. All RT settings are High during playback, but the image never can compare to that capture window look. Tried to capture with compression at None & found our system drops frames & aborts capture. How can we have that crisp, clear image like the capture window?

Thanks so much for the valuable info

-Sal

[Graeme Nattress]

Sounds like something wrong in your FCP setup or monitoring if it’s looking blurry and choppy after de-interlace conform. It shouldn’t. It should look great. If you could try the G Map Frames suggestion, even though it might be wrong for your needs with it’s nice 40% slowdown, I’d be keen to hear what it’s looks like.

Am I right in reading you’re captuing DV as uncompressed 10bit? DV should be captured as DV. Drop me an email and I can give you a call and see if I can help.

Graeme

– http://www.nattress.com – Film Effects and Standards Conversion for FCP

[Salvatore]

A previous editor on this project captured a mini DV tape using DV compression. The results were unacceptable resolution & choppy playback. That’s why we tried to recapture at a higher data rate (uncompressed 10-bit) in hopes of getting a higher res digitization. Thanks for offering to call us, please do. Or write us back if you’d like us to call you.

Catherine Corona
Oliver Rabinovitch
(303)600-8982

[Graeme Nattress]

Capturng DV as DV is the best way to work – again if you saw choppy playback or lack of resolution, you’re doing somethign wrong! I’ll give you a call if it’s ok?

Graeme

– http://www.nattress.com – Film Effects and Standards Conversion for FCP

[Salvatore]

Yeah, go ahead & call – Thanks!

[Salvatore]

I’m stepping out for lunch, so if you call try my cell # first:
720-938-7572

Thanks again for your generosity Graeme.

-Oliver (Salvatore)

[Salvatore]

Hi again Graeme,

We loved the results of the deinterlacing filter once we applied the workflow you suggested. So we purchased the film effects pakage and are playing with settings now. What would you recommend to get the rest of the footage (24p Advanced pulldown on a Panasonic VX100A) to look as good as possible? Should we move to a 29.97 sequence and conform the 23.98 footage to 29.97?

Huge, huge thanks for all your help here- we love you!

[Graeme Nattress]

Thanks. Great that the BetaSP is now looking as intended.

Film Effects, using the gamma controls, can really spruce up most video.

24pA footage should be in a 23.98fps timeline – that’s not in doubt. If it’s not looking as good as it did in camera, I need more info on it’s capture, what it looks like now etc. Also, I need to know how you’re monitoring the footage. It all adds up.

I can give you a call again tomorrow, (drop me a mail if you need me to call) or we can continue here and everyone can benefit – or chip in with ideas.

Graeme

– http://www.nattress.com – Film Effects and Standards Conversion for FCP