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  • Bernhard G.

    May 17, 2012 at 7:43 am

    Jeremy,

    the first reason I thought of is, x264 is the best H.264 encoder.
    If AVC-I becomes the new ProRes, I’m simply afraid
    while every NLE would be able to encode to AVC-I relying
    on different AVC-I SDKs, that there would still be
    quality differences between implementations.
    Definitely won’t like to see arguments like “We encode AVC-I better than …”
    With ProRes, consistent quality could be guaranteed. We need less complexity,
    not more.

    The second reason is, that an open-source implementation would allow
    every NLE building company to integrate this standard for minimal license fees,
    and not only for import, but also for a whole workflow.

    Third, an open-source implementation would perhaps allow
    Hardware Manufacturers like Blackmagic and AJA to implement
    the code on their ACICs. Better would be an open hardware implementation,
    every camera, recorder, and Video-I/O manufacturer is allowed to use.

    Or put simply:
    An open-source implementation would avoid
    typical restrictions we got used to know in the industry.

    ProRes is relatively open and available right now,
    and I’m NOT willing to give up only a tiniest bit of this freedom!

    Best regards,
    Bernhard

  • Bernhard G.

    May 17, 2012 at 11:52 am

    Jeremy,

    I was very surprised to read in the GV-4095M White Paper
    “AVC-Intra for HD-Editing and Production”, Pg.7
    that AVC-I seems to be more robust than ProRes and DNxHD!

    In fact this has changed my mind. I have to admit that I
    wasn’t that fan of AVC-I because it has been developed
    by a camera manufacturer – therefor I’m naturally skeptical;
    (thought I do very appreciate the fair-priced AVC-I Cams
    Panasonic has produced in recent years).

    But I don’t want to exchange one set of restrictions
    (ProRes in Software interoperability) through another
    (AVC-I in Hardware interoperability).

    Put simply:
    AVC-Ultra needs to become an Open Standard!
    Software AND Hardware.

    Best regards,
    Bernhard

  • Jeremy Garchow

    May 17, 2012 at 3:42 pm

    [Bernhard Grininger] “the first reason I thought of is, x264 is the best H.264 encoder.
    If AVC-I becomes the new ProRes, I’m simply afraid
    while every NLE would be able to encode to AVC-I relying
    on different AVC-I SDKs, that there would still be
    quality differences between implementations.
    Definitely won’t like to see arguments like “We encode AVC-I better than …”
    With ProRes, consistent quality could be guaranteed. We need less complexity,
    not more.”

    I guess I’m confused.

    You know AVC-Intra belongs to Panasonic, right?

    I don’t think that Panasonic would open source AVC-Intra, but you never know.

    It certainly seems licensable. I have a third party QT encoder for my Mac, and Adobe includes it in AME.

    Open source is a double edged sword. It would solve a lot of problems, but it also creates some problems.

    A universal codec is not an easy problem to solve.

    Jeremy

  • Bernhard G.

    May 17, 2012 at 4:26 pm

    [Jeremy Garchow] “You know AVC-Intra belongs to Panasonic, right?”

    This is the crucial question here. Does AVC-I really belong to Panasonic?
    – It has been standardized by the SMPTE.
    – Furthermore it is an encoding variant of the H.264 profile High 10 Intra and High 4:2:2 Intra.

    Please does anyone here know for sure, what legal status AVC-I has?

    Best regards,
    Bernhard

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