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Smaller Mac Pro
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[Oliver Peters] “There are already cracks, such as lack of support for the iMP and the XDR displays without an eGPU.”
Happy Trails, iMac Pro, you were a necessary patch in the lineup, and you filled that role admirably, but now it’s time to return to the four-quadrant lineup implemented by the all-mighty Steve Jobs. ????
I’m taking a complete stab in the dark here, but I’d guess most people that are looking to $5,000+ on a desktop system would rather buy a Mac Pro than an all-in-one iMac Pro.
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[Andrew Kimery] “I’m taking a complete stab in the dark here, but I’d guess most people that are looking to $5,000+ on a desktop system would rather buy a Mac Pro than an all-in-one iMac Pro.”
I’m not so sure about that, considering that you still have to add a display to the Mac Pro. Plus many people will opt for the simplicity and lower power demands of the iMac Pro. I think there will continue to be room for both. If anything, there might not be a need for a high-end iMac. Or maybe the high-end iMac and iMac Pro get merged in the product line.
OTOH, Apple can’t seem to figure out how to properly position the iPad Pro vs MacBook (now gone) vs MacBook Air vs 13″ MacBook Pro.
– Oliver
Oliver Peters – oliverpeters.com
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[Bob Zelin] “What I currently find “entertaining” is the YouTube influencer’s videos. Everyone has a loaded 2019 Mac Pro, with TWO of the new Apple monitors (and 2 stands) – and they are shooting their videos with a phone. So there is no way that these people actually purchased those expensive systems. It’s a commercial. An “influencers” commercial.”
Obviously the majority of these are loaner machines from Apple. Unfortunately not all of these influencers are doing what they are supposed to do, which is clearly identify that fact.
– Oliver
Oliver Peters – oliverpeters.com
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[Oliver Peters] “I’m not so sure about that, considering that you still have to add a display to the Mac Pro. Plus many people will opt for the simplicity and lower power demands of the iMac Pro. I think there will continue to be room for both. If anything, there might not be a need for a high-end iMac. Or maybe the high-end iMac and iMac Pro get merged in the product line.”
The iMac Pro always felt like a stop-gap solution to me. If Apple could’ve had the Mac Pro ready in 2017 I don’t think there ever would’ve been an iMac Pro.
I know people also say, “It comes with a monitor” but not everyone needs a new monitor or necessarily wants the built-in monitor as opposed a 3rd party option. That’s been a common gripe in the lineup for as long as I can remember (people wanting a mid-sized tower that was basically a headless iMac). If the entry level Mac Pro was $4500-$5000 I think that it would cannibalize the iMac Pro sales to the point that, at best, Apple would have two ‘meh’ selling products that were too close to each other in terms of price and performance.
Moving the iMac Pro down to become the new high-end iMac would be more in line with the product matrix Apple has had for the ~25yrs. A maxed out iMac would usually be close to the price of an entry level MP, but now that price point has been filled by the iMac Pro.
[Oliver Peters] “OTOH, Apple can’t seem to figure out how to properly position the iPad Pro vs MacBook (now gone) vs MacBook Air vs 13″ MacBook Pro.”
Yeah, their mobile product matrix is a mess.
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[Bob Zelin] “What I currently find “entertaining” is the YouTube influencer’s videos. Everyone has a loaded 2019 Mac Pro, with TWO of the new Apple monitors (and 2 stands) – and they are shooting their videos with a phone. “
Below is YouTube influencer “iJustine” showing her Mac Pro. It was shot on three 8k Red Heliums:
https://joema.smugmug.com/Videography/IJustineMacPro/n-8Zq5gX/
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[Andrew Kimery] “I’m taking a complete stab in the dark here, but I’d guess most people that are looking to $5,000+ on a desktop system would rather buy a Mac Pro than an all-in-one iMac Pro.”
My day job would not use the iMac Pro as a stop-gap.
Before I got here 20 years ago, they were told that the tower is where it’s at.
So I had to wait till this month to upgrade two nMPs to the new Mac Pro.
They see the iMac Pro as the same as the iMacs purchased for the Social Media/Web dept. here.
Now the challenge will be to convince them to move the graphics (mostly print) nMPs out for the latest Mac Pros….this is where the middle Mac should come in.Anyone in print here that has jumped into the newer MPs?
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[Eric Santiago] “Anyone in print here that has jumped into the newer MPs?”
But print requires a good display, which adds more cost to the Mac Pros even with non-Apple displays. OTOH, some of the photo bloggers seem pretty jazzed about how quickly the Mac Pros chew into raw photos. So it will likely depend on what type of print work is involved.
– Oliver
Oliver Peters – oliverpeters.com
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[Oliver Peters] “But print requires a good display, which adds more cost to the Mac Pros even with non-Apple displays. OTOH, some of the photo bloggers seem pretty jazzed about how quickly the Mac Pros chew into raw photos. So it will likely depend on what type of print work is involved.”
Assuming they don’t already have a display *and* they like/want the built-in display that comes with the iMac Pro.
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[Andrew Kimery] “Assuming they don’t already have a display *and* they like/want the built-in display that comes with the iMac Pro.”
I think you missed the context. Eric was talking about getting the print folks to switch from iMacs to Mac Pros.
– Oliver
Oliver Peters – oliverpeters.com
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[Oliver Peters] “I think you missed the context. Eric was talking about getting the print folks to switch from iMacs to Mac Pros.”
I think he said the iMacs are being used by the social/web department and the graphics (print) department has 2013 MPs.
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