Slomo woes in PAL land

[Walter Biscardi]

[Jaymags] “Any suggestions or workarounds appreciated… with the caveat that I don’t really want to put frame blending or motion blur on it, as I really don’t want to polish a t*rd.”

You say you’re editing in an 8bit timeline, but what’s the original footage format? Is it DV? If so then motion blur is almost always necessary for slo-mo’d DV footage, at least in my experience.

And in general, I always add a touch of motion blur to my slo mo’d SD shots as there’s always a little bit of a shimmer depending on how many horizontal hard lines there are in the image. For HD it’s no problem.

You can also look at the Boris Continuum Complete package which has Optical Flow which does a ridiculously clean slo-mo, similar to what Shake does.

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[Jason Porthouse]

Thanks Walter, the footage is digibeta originally. Re-reading the archive I’ve tried your motion blur settings, and it has helped… I just find it interesting that the straight slomos look quite as bad as they do. Certainly not an issue when I’ve been editing DV native projects, or HDV come to that. I’m always a little wary of workarounds as thay often hide a problem rather than solve it, and they come back and bite you later…

Thanks for the input, and a merry Christmas to you…

Jason

[Jason Porthouse]

Thanks David. Funnily enough, 50% seems to give the worst problems in this case. It definitely seems to be a Kona/PAL issue. Walters’ sage advice about motion control, coupled with frame blending, has yielded much nicer results.

Jason

[Peter Wiggins]

Jaymags,

4 years ago I was complaining about the slomo in FCP (I’m a PAL user too although that doesn’t really matter here)

Graeme Natress emailed me and we came up with a solution for smooth 50% slomos

He wrote a filter called frames & fields that takes a field and makes a frame out of it.
Looks pretty good too, very VTR like, no need for any blur.

https://www.nattress.com/Products/set2/set2.htm

Another way I’ve been doing it is to use frame blending and then apply the deinterlace filter.

Peter

[Jason Porthouse]

Thanks Peter, I’ll check it out. I’m spoilt – my ageing Fast 601 does the most wonderful smooooth slomos. Ah well, can’t have it all.

Jason
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[Alan Lacey]

I’d second that about the ‘601’ slomos.

Alan