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  • Posted by Kent Beeson on January 22, 2008 at 5:20 am

    Very simple slo-mo, it’s a static shot which starts to pan – at a certain point in the clip I’ve done a match frame edit and at that point the clip goes to 80% from 100% – but it’s very jittery, I’ve tried with and without frame blending on, no real difference for me…both on the Apple 23″ and an NTSC TV (through S video cable), the jitter is present.

    How can I get smooth slo mo’s? Using FCP Studio 5.1.4. DVcam footage.

    Thanks
    K

    Tom Wolsky replied 17 years, 10 months ago 6 Members · 14 Replies
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  • Colin Mcquillan

    January 22, 2008 at 6:41 am

    Have you tried using the time remap tool in the clips motion tab? It can take a bit to get used to the interface of it, but works well once you have the hang of it. Also, right click the last keyframe you place in the time remap window and select “smooth” to smooth out the effect.

    Colin McQuillan
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  • Kent Beeson

    January 22, 2008 at 7:05 am

    Thanks Colin

    Yeah, I’ve tried the Time Remap as well as right click on the clip, select speed, type in 80%…with frame blending on it has pulsating lines, with it off no pulsating but choppy, stuttery movement…the smooth in Time remap is OK but doesn’t really work for the shot in question.

    I just wonder how to make the pan slow at 80% but clean., no frame blending (would be ideal) and yet smooth pan/movement…I’ll keep playing with the Time remap, but any thoughts welcome.

    K

  • Colin Mcquillan

    January 22, 2008 at 7:31 am

    Out of curiosity, was the footage shot with a fast shutter speed? I’ve seen on occasion some “pulsing” of slo-mo’ed high shutter footage before.

    Colin McQuillan
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  • Kent Beeson

    January 22, 2008 at 7:35 am

    No fast shutter speed, but I know what you mean…If I still have trouble, maybe I’ll post the 10 sec clip online Tuesday to show the issue…thanks for replies…
    K

  • Colin Mcquillan

    January 22, 2008 at 7:51 am

    No worries! wish I could be of more assistance. Both time remap and changing a clips speed by right clicking it in the timeline both work fine for me!

    If I’m going slower than 50% I like to take the clip into Motion and do the speed change there.

    Colin McQuillan
    Vancouver BC

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  • Uli Plank

    January 22, 2008 at 9:16 am

    The flow motion in Motion 3 is pretty impressive

  • Herb Sevush

    January 22, 2008 at 5:42 pm

    Kent –

    The Slo-Mo feature in FCP is not great, with or without frame blending. If you had upgraded to FCP 6, the “optical flow” slo-mo in Motion 3 is much better, would probably do the job for you. For FCP5 the only solution I know of is the plug in “Twixtor”, which works great. It’s expensive and takes a long time to render, but the results are excellent.

    Herb Sevush
    Zebra Productions

  • Kent Beeson

    January 22, 2008 at 5:43 pm

    Thanks for Twixtor link – was interested until I saw the price, just for slo/fast mo?!

    Thanks for Motion reference, will try…

    K

  • Kent Beeson

    January 22, 2008 at 5:47 pm

    Thanks Herb

    Just got FCP Studio upgrade today, but still have to get a mac pro, so won’t be able to use Motion for a few weeks (currently editing on a G4 powerbook 1GHZ, 1 GB RAM only)…FCP slo mo is really not effective…but when I can I’ll try Motion.

    K

  • Herb Sevush

    January 22, 2008 at 5:55 pm

    Kent –

    One thing about “optical flow” in Motion – it takes forever. The reason being is that no matter your in and out points for the slo-mo sequence, “optical flow” analyzes the ENTIRE CLIP. To speed things up the best thing to do is export a new quicktime file of only the part of the clip your interested in, with appropriate handles on either end, and them export this into Motion. The clip can be a reference movie if you want. This work-flow will speed things up enormously.

    Herb Sevush
    Zebra Productions

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