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  • Slipping With Keys

    Posted by Dylan Reeve on May 26, 2008 at 2:12 am

    I’ve found this tip:
    https://www.avid2fcp.com/tuesday-tips/slip-with-the-trim-keys

    But is there a simpler way to slip edits with the keyboard? For some reason about 90% of the clips in one of my episodes are between 2 and 10 frames out from where they should be (this is the one episode someone else digitised, they told FCP to add handles when digitising, which I blame entirely). Have having to press a key, click the mouse, press another key and then trim is frustrating me hugely – is there a better way? Even if I could actually select a clip without using the mouse might improve things a little?

    My ultimate would be the same as Avid Media Composer where I just hit the trim keys with the playhead over a clip, but I’m fairly sure that’s not going to happen.

    I’m also very interested to hear why this might have happened on this episode? The process is we export a decomposed sequence as AAF from Avid, and then Batch Capture the sequence in FCP after Automatic Duck import. In this case the person doing the digitise told the Batch Capture to add handles (50 frames I think) to the clips when it captured – that is all that is different, but seems hard to understand how that has resulted in most of the shots being out by a few frames?

    Chi-ho Lee replied 17 years, 11 months ago 3 Members · 5 Replies
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  • Kevin Monahan

    May 26, 2008 at 3:46 am

    Slipping form the keyboard:
    X to mark clip
    Opt + A to select in to out
    S = Slip Tool
    [ or ] to trim

    As to your other issues, it could be anything. Most likely pilot error. There is nothing wrong capturing with handles that I know of, but I’ve never heard of anyone doing so with 50 frame handles.

    My ultimate would be the same as Avid Media Composer where I just hit the trim keys with the playhead over a clip, but I’m fairly sure that’s not going to happen.

    FCP is not Avid. You know that bro. It’s never going to be “just like Avid”. Thank God. This coming from a former Avid editor.

    Kevin Monahan
    http://www.fcpworld.com
    Author – Motion Graphics and Effects in Final Cut Pro

  • Dylan Reeve

    May 26, 2008 at 4:08 am

    [Kevin Monahan] “X to mark clip
    Opt + A to select in to out
    S = Slip Tool
    [ or ] to trim”

    That’s a slightly improved way of doing it, I think – at least I don’t have to touch the mouse 🙂

    [Kevin Monahan] “FCP is not Avid. You know that bro. It’s never going to be “just like Avid”. Thank God. This coming from a former Avid editor.”

    I am certainly aware of that by now… But sometimes for things like this I wonder why the approach in FCP isn’t a little less involved – this seems like a great example… Why does the clip have to be selected, the slip can only ever apply to a single clip (as far as I can tell anyway). So why not, when in slip mode, could the changes be applied to whatever clip is under the playhead? It would certainly be more streamlined in a process like this where I need to make small slips to many clips, and it’s doesn’t seem like it would cause any undue problems.

  • Kevin Monahan

    May 26, 2008 at 4:21 am

    Dylan,
    Try for one day to edit with only keyboard shortcuts in FCP. You’ll find that eventually, you can edit even faster than Avid. Again, I’m a former Avid editor.

    …the slip can only ever apply to a single clip (as far as I can tell anyway).

    Not true. You can slip multiple clips if they are selected and you use the [ ] keys. Really great for compositing and effects and slipping multiple clips into synch, horizontally or vertically.

    So why not, when in slip mode, could the changes be applied to whatever clip is under the playhead?

    Because you might have a clip on V2 that you didn’t want to be slipped. I think the functionality could be moved to Auto Select, but that would be a feature request.

    It would certainly be more streamlined in a process like this where I need to make small slips to many clips, and it’s doesn’t seem like it would cause any undue problems.

    Because of FCP’s architecture, some things are never going to change. You just have to accept it and master the differences between Avid and FCP. That way, you’ll be a much stronger editor in the long run.

    Kevin Monahan
    http://www.fcpworld.com
    Author – Motion Graphics and Effects in Final Cut Pro

  • Dylan Reeve

    May 26, 2008 at 4:53 am

    [Kevin Monahan] “Try for one day to edit with only keyboard shortcuts in FCP. You’ll find that eventually, you can edit even faster than Avid. Again, I’m a former Avid editor.”

    I’m dubious, I’m pretty quick in Avid, but also I’m actually not doing any cutting in FCP, only online finishing, the demands are fairly different.

    [Kevin Monahan] “Because you might have a clip on V2 that you didn’t want to be slipped. I think the functionality could be moved to Auto Select, but that would be a feature request.”

    Fair enough. It’s not a major issue I guess, I don’t have to do this often, but still feels a little cumbersome when I do. I still think Avid largely.

    I’ve nearly got my sequence back in order now, but I’m losing my mind a little bit. Now I just need to find out if I can reconform my slightly retimed sequence in Color… Here’s hoping!

  • Chi-ho Lee

    May 26, 2008 at 4:00 pm

    The problem with slipping and sliding on keyboard is that you don’t see the two up display as you would with dragging. I wish you can see the two up with keyboard as well.

    CHL

    Chi-Ho Lee
    Film & Video Editor
    Apple Certified Final Cut Pro Trainer
    http://www.chiholee.com

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