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  • Slipping one track and viewing another?

    Posted by Steve Olive on March 4, 2012 at 8:55 am

    Hi again all.

    As I mentioned before, I used to do this video thing for a living, and something I’d do a lot is slip a video track.

    My little Vegas project requires me to shoot the same golf swing from two angles, using two cameras. So naturally I have one angle on one track, and the other on the second.

    It seems that the default way of showing video being slipped is for the viewer to show start and end frames.

    What I’d like to do is sit on the point of impact on track one, and slip track two to the same point.
    So in other words, instead of start/end being shown, I want the current frame from two different tracks.

    Can this be done? I’m sure it can but it seems that even this simpler version has been asked with no reply:

    https://forums.creativecow.net/thread/24/939729

    Mike Kujbida replied 14 years, 2 months ago 4 Members · 18 Replies
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  • Mike Kujbida

    March 4, 2012 at 3:09 pm

    If I understand you correctly, look up “Slipping and Sliding Events” in the online help menu as I think this will do what you want.

  • Steve Olive

    March 4, 2012 at 4:05 pm

    Thanks Mike, I did look it up but there doesn’t appear to be anything relevant there. Whenever I slip a track, the view shows me front and end frames of the clip, and they move as I slip it. I don’t want that slipping view to appear at all, I want to see what the slip is doing in my output.

    This frame shows what I want to achieve:

  • Mike Kujbida

    March 4, 2012 at 5:21 pm

    Sorry Steve but I don’t know of any technique specific to Vegas to accomplish this.
    What I do in similar situations is get my first shot lined up to the spot I want and then scroll through the second one a frame at a time, find the matching position and then trim it to match.

  • Steve Olive

    March 4, 2012 at 5:25 pm

    OK, thanks for trying. It seems a very fundamental requirement.

    Vegas has many good points, and of course is as cheap as chips, but this is such a basic requirement of an edit system I’m amazed it isn’t there.

  • Mike Kujbida

    March 4, 2012 at 5:36 pm

    It’s possible that there is a way to do what you want but I’ve never come across it.
    Mind you, I don’t push Vegas to its limits the way some folks do.

  • Stephen Mann

    March 4, 2012 at 6:24 pm

    Are you just trying to sync the two events? (On the timeline it’s events, not clips).

    Just solo track A and find the point of impact. Drop a marker
    Then solo Track B and do the same.
    Make sure ripple is turned off.
    Drag the track with the earlier marker to the right until the markers are aligned.

    Steve Mann
    MannMade Digital Video
    http://www.mmdv.com

  • Steve Olive

    March 4, 2012 at 9:39 pm

    Thanks. I’m sure I can get that to work, though it still seems a lot of keystrokes. This is surely a VERY basic edit function.

    Anyway, the assistance is appreciated.

    Many thanks.

  • Tom Pauncz

    March 5, 2012 at 2:27 pm

    Stephen,
    Without ripple, how do you drag a track and a marker at the same time? Other than rendering out each clip with markers and then dragging those around.
    Am I missing something in your description?
    Thanks.

    Cheers for now,
    Tom Pauncz
    (30WEST MEDiA GROUP)

  • Stephen Mann

    March 5, 2012 at 3:23 pm

    No, you’re correct. It’s been years since I had to align MOS video, but my process will not work because the markers can’t be linked to individual tracks.

    New process:
    Solo track A and find the point of impact. Drop a marker
    Then solo Track B and do the same. Split the event on Track B and delete the left-half.
    Make sure ripple is turned off.
    Move the event on Track B to snap to the marker. Since you split the event on Track B at the same point of impact, the events are now in sync.
    Drag the left edge of the event to restore the frames prior to the point of impact.

    Or you could just record with sound and use PluralEyes.

    Steve Mann
    MannMade Digital Video
    http://www.mmdv.com

  • Steve Olive

    March 5, 2012 at 7:06 pm

    Well I have to say that having asked how to do something I imagined to be simple, I’m shocked at how tricky it is.

    Slipping a track to match something on another is almost chapter one of basic editing requirements.

    Still great software but I’d trade this bucketload of effects for such a fundamental option.

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