slip visuals and connected audio moving when I dont want it to

[Tom Wolsky]

You can make audio a secondary storyline if you wish. Some users who are working with music are putting the music itself on the primary storyline and connecting everything to that so it’s free to move about.

All the best,

Tom

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[Mark Morache]

I’ve had to try to workaround this one as well.

Reconnecting the audio to another clip is quite easy actually, with a OPT-CMD-click.

If the clip is short and doesn’t extend over the end of the clip it’s connected to, that’s another problem.

I’ve noted the time displacement when I roll a clip, then move the connected clips correspondingly.

I’ve match-framed the clip I’m trying to roll, found my new inpoint on the event bin, and replaced the clip in the timeline with itself with the new inpoint. Before I do this I copy the effects on the clip, then paste them back in. Annoying, but effective.

Here’s another workaround I just tried, and it seems to work. Turn on your snapping (N), opt-click the clip you want to roll and drag it to make a copy of it, directly above itself. Roll that clip to get it where you like, then overwrite it back to the primary storyline. When I tried it, it replaced the clip in the primary storyline, and left the audio of the clip it replaced hanging below the storyline, which was easy to delete.

Clearly, they need to allow us to roll a clip without changing the connected media. I’ve sent a feedback, but I encourage people to send feedback and ask for this!

In trim mode, the option key takes you out of slip into slide. Holding down the command key makes the changes very fine. Perhaps Shift-dragging could roll the clip and keep the connected clips stationary.

I have faith that Apple will fix these things. I only pray that the programmers will be smart enough to figure out how to make them work with this damned magnetic timeline interface. I’m afraid that by the time we twist backwards, holding down three modifier keys with four fingers on our multitouch pad, it would have been a whole lot easier if we had a simple track-based timeline.

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[Greg Gilpatrick]

I second Tom said: Make the music track your primary storyline. I am working on a music video in FCPX at the moment and it sort of upset me at first that I couldn’t edit the “normal” way but after trying it out with the audio as the primary storyline for a little while, it actually made quite a bit of sense to do it that way. You’ll probably want to make your picture clips into a secondary storyline attached to the music so you can trim, transition, etc.

On Edit: I just realized Tom said something totally different. 😉

So, I suggest using your music as primary – perhaps in a compound clip.

[Jeremy Garchow]

There’s a couple of workarounds that are pretty easy (but of course they should seem unnecessary), I agree a modifier key is needed here to slip the clip while keeping connected clips in place. Holding shift, or whatever seems like it would be a decent thing to add.

The “easiest” way right now to do this is to make your primary clip a compound clip (option-g), then open the clip in timeline (double click), do your edit, go back to the main timeline by hitting the back arrow in the top left corner of the timeline then break apart (command-shift-g). This keeps everything as it was, except the slip that you did.

The other way is to lift that clip out of the primary storyline with command-option-up arrow. Do your slip, then put back in primary with command-option-down. The only problem here is that if you had transitions in the primary, you will have to remake them as they get lost when you put the clip back down in the primary.

Jeremy

[Robert Bracken]

MIND BLOWN

I finally get magnetic timeline.

Put all your A-roll in the magnetic timeline. BOOM done.
Everything else is gravy.

[Jeremy Garchow]

[Robert Bracken] “Put all your A-roll in the magnetic timeline. BOOM done.
Everything else is gravy.”

Sometimes the trick is figuring out what the “A-roll” is. It might not always be visuals.

[Ben Scott]

I tried the move the clip I want to visually slip to a connected clip with the gap clip left on primary storyline, this seems the most robust way, use alt cmd up or down to move off primary stoyline

the storyline way and reconnect whereabouts u attach to primary storyline using alt cmnd click works sometimes but not when overlapping audio (as you cant create the storyline) or when there isnt anywhere to sensibly reconnect

I agree for music based edits you should have the music as the A roll and connect the other clips to this

think my intial post was vague, I was actually refering to a piece of audio that continued from a previous shots dialogue but was the audio only from another take, standard thing when editing dialogue