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Activity Forums Apple Final Cut Pro Legacy slightly OT: DV50 & DVCAM over firewire?

  • Michael Sacci

    March 10, 2008 at 11:43 pm

    ??? What do you mean by this. FCP capture DV50 and DV25(DVCAM) from decks that play those tapes.

  • Bret Williams

    March 11, 2008 at 12:11 am

    So, I assume you’re having some trouble because obviously it can. It’s pretty much the defacto standard application for capturing and dealing with dv or dv50 material. It was designed around that very idea from day one. What is your question?

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  • Walter Biscardi

    March 11, 2008 at 12:45 am

    [Bob Roberts] “Why on earth is Final Cut Pro not capable of capturing DV50 or DVCAM natively over firewire?”

    It can and has pretty much since day one.

    What decks are you using?

    What system are you using?

    [Bob Roberts] “Seems kinda silly, no?”

    Yes, very silly that you can’t capture DVCAM or DV50 on your system. DVCAM capture worked on my very first iMac. Those old G3 iMacs from a few years back.

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  • Bob Roberts

    March 11, 2008 at 1:39 am

    I have a DVCAM tape playing from a DSR-45 out via firewire 400. FCP 6.0.2, OS 10.4.11, QT 7.3.1, G-RAID (FW800).

    I should have been more specific, what I’m trying to do is capture the above as DV50 using the DV50 capture/input. I’ve never been able to do this by going straight into the firewire 400 in my MacBook Pro. It works fine if I do standard DV, but not DV50.

    Is there something that captures in a native-DVCAM codec that I don’t know about?

  • Walter Biscardi

    March 11, 2008 at 1:41 am

    [Bob Roberts] “Is there something that captures in a native-DVCAM codec that I don’t know about?”

    That’s a conversion from one codec to another. you require something like the AJA Io or AJA Kona series to perform this conversion for you. FCP does not do this natively.

    DV50 is a Panasonic codec, no Sony equipment supports that format that I know of.

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  • Bob Roberts

    March 11, 2008 at 1:48 am

    I was just looking up DVCAM on Wikipedia and all this time I thought its data rate was 50 Mbit/s. Oh wow! It’s only 25 Mbit/s.

    Nevermind.

  • Tom Brooks

    March 11, 2008 at 2:22 am

    OMG!! On the other hand, it seems to stick in my memory that DV NTSC will play in real time in a DV50 timeline–even prior to mixed timelines in 6.0. Panasonic may have made that possible. If so, you can capture DV NTSC but edit in a DV50 timeline. I can’t find corroborating evidence of it, so I could be blowing smoke on this one. Anybody??

  • Bret Williams

    March 11, 2008 at 2:44 pm

    Here’s the odd thing… if you work with DVCPro50 in a DVCPro50 timeline, it will play back DV25 out to a DVCam deck. I have no idea how, but we were using DVCPro50 for a couple shows, and we had to use a DVCPro50 timeline or else render everything in a DV25 timeline (which was our final product). So, just to edit without rendering, we figured we’d just edit on the computer screen in a native DV50 timeline. By golly, it spit out DV25 out the fireiwire! Hook up a DV50 deck and it spit out DV50. No changes involved. It must be part of the DV50 spec that it can strip out every other bit or something when a DV25 device is attached. We were using the DSR-11. Try it!

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