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  • single drive esata vs. firewire 800

    Posted by Jay Soriano on September 1, 2009 at 1:08 am

    i currently have a bus powered firewire 800 drive and was looking to get another for my macbook pro. i was looking to pick up a bus powered minixpress which has an esata port. was wondering if i will benefit much plugging in esata instead of firewire 800 since it is only a single drive and not raided? i work mainly w/ dv, hdv, avchd and dvcprohd. thanks.

    Craig Alan replied 16 years, 9 months ago 5 Members · 8 Replies
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  • Michael Sacci

    September 1, 2009 at 2:31 am

    Copying from my RAID to a single eSata drive I get roughly 5 GB/s vs. FW800 at 2 GB/s. This is on a MP tower, eSata can be internal or external and get the same speed.

  • Russell Lasson

    September 1, 2009 at 3:30 am

    [Michael Sacci] “I get roughly 5 GB/s vs. FW800 at 2 GB/s”

    Michael, you might want to restate those numbers. There is no way you’re getting 5 gigabytes per second off of one drive.

    Jay, eSATA is faster, but not as easy to use for Mac people because eSATA requires an adaptor on the macbook pro. eSATA can go as fast as around 300MB/sec, but if you only use it in a one drive configuration, it will only go as fast as that drive will go, which is generally between 100-120MB/sec.

    Firewire 800 is much more convenient and in my opinion more reliable too because it doesn’t require an extra adaptor that can sometimes be a little finicky. Fastest I’ve seen a FW800 drive go is around 80MB/sec.

    If you’re just dealing with DV, AVCHD, DVCPRO, HDV stuff, then I don’t think you’ll notice a huge difference. If you want a drive with eSATA on it, I’d suggest getting it with FW800 too, that way, you have a backup.

    If you want to capture directly to the drive, I’ve probably suggest eSATA so that it doesn’t effect the bandwidth of the firewire bus that you’re trying to capture off of.

    -Russ

    Russell Lasson
    Colorist/Digital Cinema Specialist
    Color Mill
    Salt Lake City, UT
    http://www.colormill.net

  • Michael Sacci

    September 1, 2009 at 3:46 am

    /minute not second, I always do that, sorry.

  • Russell Lasson

    September 1, 2009 at 4:50 am

    If you find a drive that does 5GB/sec, I’m in!!!!

    -Russ

    Russell Lasson
    Colorist/Digital Cinema Specialist
    Color Mill
    Salt Lake City, UT
    http://www.colormill.net

  • Michael Sacci

    September 1, 2009 at 5:05 am

    I have needed to to be that fast in order to make the final cut off at FedEx. Some day soon we will have it, but then we will be wanting 5 TB/s, there is no making any of us happy.

  • Baz Leffler

    September 1, 2009 at 11:38 pm

    [Michael Sacci] “/minute not second, I always do that, sorry.”

    If it was per sec then my edit should be complete before I even enter the room!

    BAz

    What would I do without the ‘UNDO’ button!!!!

  • Jay Soriano

    September 2, 2009 at 7:58 pm

    thank you all for your feedback. the minixpress comes w/ an esata port as well as firewire 800.

  • Craig Alan

    September 4, 2009 at 10:26 pm

    https://www.barefeats.com/note06.html

    if you scroll down to “insights” you’ll get some solid understanding of the options/speed. Certainly more important with a raid but worth considering.

    Two drive raids are becoming cheaper. Caldigit is great if you have the bucks. I just ordered a G-Technology 2TB G-Raid3 Quad Interface External Hard Drive Array for about $350. I’ve been using a OWC Mercury-AL FW800/400/U2/eS R0 2.0TB with a macbook pro and it works fine on either the 800 or with the esata card. But only the sonnet card will give you that extra speed boost. I have a firmtek card and it is somewhat faster on esata. Plus I don’t have to worry about how many things are sharing the firewire bus.

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