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Activity Forums Cinematography Shutter timing?

  • Todd Terry

    February 20, 2011 at 4:22 pm

    It depends on your frame rate (fps).

    But, if you’re talking about a frame rate of 24fps, then a 90° shutter is a shutter speed of 1/96th of a second. A 45° shutter yields an exposure of 1/192nd of a second.

    For other frame rates or shutter degrees use this formula:
    1 / 360 ÷ degrees x fps

    T2

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  • Chris Law

    February 21, 2011 at 12:37 pm

    Thanks a lot, the frame rate im working at is 50fps so the shutter speed would be around 1/200?. Im going for that war film look so I need higher shutter speed.

  • Todd Terry

    February 21, 2011 at 3:19 pm

    [Chris law] “Im going for that war film look”

    Ah… the Saving Private Ryan look? Well at 50fps a 90° shutter would be 1/200th of a second. A 45° shutter at 50fps would be 1/400th.

    I believe in some sections Ryan was shot with a shutter as narrow as 7.5° to give its very specific look. Of course that was shot at 24fps, I’m not sure how well it will translate in slow-mo at 50fps. With slow-mo footage you normally crank the shutter speed up anyway just to make it appear “normal,” so to exaggerate the effect it might take quite a bit more.

    Ryan is a great example of narrow-shutter effect used very very well. To see the opposite, watch Gladiator.

    T2

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    Todd Terry
    Creative Director
    Fantastic Plastic Entertainment, Inc.
    fantasticplastic.com

  • Chris Law

    February 23, 2011 at 2:20 pm

    Intresting stuff. I found a 25p Option on my camcorder and I will try shooting with that with about 180 shutter speed. Although what If I shot in 50p at about 200 shutter and then just converted the 50p to 24p/25p Then if I wanted to slow down the footage for any reason I could have a smoother slow motion.

    At 1:53 do you recon this was a really high shutter speed or was it some effect in post production https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQHAZQwCGls&playnext=1&list=PLB27422F6F088916E

  • Todd Terry

    February 23, 2011 at 3:19 pm

    [Chris law] “At 1:53 do you recon this was a really high shutter speed or was it some effect in post production”

    That could have been done in-camera by shooting at a really slow frame rate but with a really narrow shutter… and then printing the film so that it doubled (or tripled) multiple frames… but, I bet not.

    I think I can say with pretty high certainty that was a post-production effect… created by skipping certain frames and doubling up on other ones to make up the time.

    It might not be the best way, but the easiest/fastest/cheapest way to do that in editing would be to put your clip on a timeline and speed it up, make a new clip of that, slow it down to so that the apparent speed matches the original, then make a new clip of that one. For example, you could put your source clip on a timeline, speed it up to 200%, make a new clip of that and throw it on the timeline, slow that one down to 50%, then make a new final clip which would become your new source clip. In that case, instead of the original frames 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8, etc, you would be seeing frames 1 1 3 3 5 5 7 7, etc.

    T2

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    Todd Terry
    Creative Director
    Fantastic Plastic Entertainment, Inc.
    fantasticplastic.com

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