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Should I upgrade to Vegas 10?
Posted by Mark Krueger on August 22, 2011 at 12:10 pmI have been using Vegas 9 for about a year now and I am still learning as I think I will always be “learning”… but just wanted some input into goint to vegas 10.
Does anybody know of any problems with upgrading to 10 from 9?
What is the primary advantage in the new software over 9?
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Steve Rhoden
August 22, 2011 at 12:28 pmWell, to answer part of your question as to if you should
upgrade to Vegas 10. I think you know the answer to that
question…lolSteve Rhoden
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Stephen Mann
August 22, 2011 at 7:54 pmEvery product release nets some users with a problem in their PC’s. Not just Vegas, but every program in the PC world. But the overwhelming majority of Vegas users are happy with the upgrade. If you are editing AVCHD then the upgrade will be a substantial performance improvement.
Why don’t you download V10 and try it out. A lot of us leave older versions installed for various reasons.
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Dave Lozinski
August 23, 2011 at 12:44 amI agree with everything Steve and Stephen said here. 🙂
I chose to upgrade to version 10 for three reasons (only 1 of which I really needed) :
1) I needed to be able to work with Stereoscopic 3D projects (the real reason)
2) I encode a lot to MP4 and Version 10 uses GPU for accelerated encoding with the Sony plugin. Make sure you get Version 10e though as versions 10a-c had issues.
3) I upgraded to Win 7 Ultimate 64-bit and the kid in me wanted the latest 64-bit Vegas to match. I was able to justify this because of item #1. 🙂
Outside of #1 and #2, I personally haven’t used anything in Version 10 that I couldn’t already or was doing in Version 9.
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Mark Krueger
August 23, 2011 at 12:58 amThanks for the info…. I currently am running windows 7 64 bit, I am doing more and more HD so I’m thinking this might help (10). From your post I take it you agree.
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Dave Lozinski
August 23, 2011 at 1:40 amFor HD stuff I can’t really say. I’d love to say “YES” and agree with you, but most of my current work isn’t in HD.
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Al Bergstein
August 23, 2011 at 1:50 pmMark, i have used 10 & 9, with all hd. 10has been much better, and very stable. Get it.the trial is free.
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Dave Haynie
August 25, 2011 at 3:51 pmI would say, upgrade, if you can figure out why you need the upgrade. And also, given the time of the year, I do wonder how far away Version 11 is….
The main reasons I upgrade. First, AVC rendering, while not GPU accelerated, is a bit faster in Vegas 10. I think we’re in a cycle, much like the dawn of HD editing with Vegas 6 or so, where each new release has that code just a bit better. Still hoping for GPU acceleration in V11, that’s now kind of a given in any high-end NLE, but for now, V10 is a win over V9.
The other things was BCC7 support. The old DirectX Filter-as-plug-in mechanism in Vegas was nice and standardized, but the API was weak compared to the various proprietary plug-in standards out there (Adobe, etc). Vegas’s use of OFX (https://openfx.sourceforge.net/) in V10 is the right answer to both issues.
While it may be fairly minor, Vegas now has a feature I suggested years back (and got) for Acid: track grouping. This comes in handy when you have many dozens of tracks. That’s pretty much guaranteed in Acid, particularly if you’re doing a complex piece (I was working on a 20 minute bit of music in four movements at the time I started pestering a buddy at Sonic Foundry about this)… these days, I like it for complex animations. Just makes the whole workflow cleaner.
I also use Vegas for live 16 track recording, and some of the new features (VU meters, input buses) make that much better. I’m still not 100% with Vegas in this capacity, and I have occasionally had it just stop during a recording, no idea why. But until I find a better tool for multitrack recording, it’s pretty good.
What I didn’t like: the new “special” Cineform stuff. Cineform, if you’re not familiar, it a DirectShow/Video for Windows/Quicktime video CODEC, based on wavelet compression, which does an amazing job as an intermediate CODEC. It worked perfectly under VfW and Vegas 9. Sony added support for some custom interface in the newer versions of Cineform in V10… don’t know just what they get there. But this completely killed older versions, cost me an extra pile of $20’s for the upgrade, on top of the Vegas 10 upgrade, that I had no reason to expect. And it just didn’t work. The new Cineform was, as before, just dandy via the VfW interface, but it crashed on output, every single time, in Vegas, until Vegas 10e. And it’s still acting flakey, from time to time. I do like new features in software. I don’t like it when a new feature isn’t working, and yet, there’s no way to disable it and go back to what did work — that’s not the way way to write professional software.
I’m also seeing some flakiness with loading projects that have a very large number of nested .veg files. However, that could have always been with us… I didn’t try to use as many of those in the past (I did recently, largely because I wasn’t able to use Cineform for intermediate files).
The stereoscopic (3D) stuff is in there too, and apparently, that was the big new feature. I have no use for that yet.. nice to know it’s possible, but I’m not convinced the consumer gear is good enough for this to be a popular thing for awhile. Plus, there’s no support in DVDA for Blu-ray in “3D” yet, though you can burn a very basic BDAV discs in “3D” from the Vegas timeline.
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Mike Thomas
August 29, 2011 at 11:49 pmI upgraded for one reason: version 10 allows you to add fx to individual audio clips the same as you can do with the video clips. No more creating a whole new track just to place fx on one clip.
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