shared media raid – cheaper options – opinions wanted!

[Mark Palmos]

aah kapish,
we would use the other for internet access/connection to the rest of the building.
ta
mark

[Chris Borjis]

[mark palmos] “it seems we may have to do the separate raid5 / gigabit ethernet route for sharing.”

We do that here at our facility.

Each of the two edit suites has its own Raid 5 storage, one is fibre, the other pci-e, both can handle up to RGB 4:4:4 HD.

We capture to each on its own, but moving or even opening projects and running them over gigabit ethernet works perfectly fine with no slow down (SD STUFF)

[Mark Palmos]

[David Smith] “You might be interested in this thread, starting with the fifth post:”

hi
yep sounds very intersting, though the tech ramble is a bit over my head, but it seems its basically via gigabit ethernet you would be editing anyway.

I didnt think ethernet, even gigabit ethernet, was fast enough for video editing… but apparently it is.

thanks for the help
Mark.

[Bob Zelin]

Hi –
I know exactly what you want – this is exactly what all of my clients want. I have just started to research this solution, and I will see this product at NAB 2008.

I am told by many that it works, but let me make one thing VERY CLEAR TO YOU. This is not a firewire drive that just plugs in and works. It appears that even though it is inexpensive to implement (and may actually work), you will need SOMEONE QUALIFIED to set this up for you. Which means that you will PAY SOMEONE MONEY to do this for you – (you will not do this by yourself). Many people say “why can’t they just come out with a shared storage solution that is cheap and so easy, even I can do it”. Well, today may be the day that “cheap” or inexpensive may actually exist (I will see in April at NAB), but EASY (easy like a firewire drive) is not today.

I am a video engineer with years of experience, and let me assure you that systems like XSAN (the full configuration) are not only expensive, but they are complicated, and require TRAINING to configure and maintain. Even the “easy” solutions (like Facilis, Editshare, and this solution – MetaLan) require some nominal training, that cannot be “easily answered” by asking questions on forums like Creative Cow.

If Tiger Technologies Meta LAN actually works, I will report my findings, but not on this forum – it will be on the SAN Networks fourm, or AJA Kona forum. Don’t look for a reply until after NAB 2008.

Bob Zelin

[Mark Raudonis]

Bob,

“this is exactly what all of my clients want.”

I smell a business opportunity! The “Z-100”. The “Zelin Approved”, client proof, four seat SAN. It retails for $999, is plug and play, and supports “Red” 4K throughput. It’s wireless. Infinitely expandable. Reliable. And, unfortunately, fictional.

mark

[Mark Palmos]

hello bobmeister!

well i reck by the end of nab2008 we will probably have bought something, the budgets are being worked on right now, thats what I’m helping them with, but i will do a bit more research. Otherwise it looks like gigabit ethernet and two separate raids.

thanks for the cautionary post… cheers
mark.

[Bob Zelin]

The product is Tiger Technologies Meta LAN – it’s not fictional, and Lance at O Productions SWEARS that it does ProRes422HQ with no issues. This is the “secret” product (smart-ass !).

Bob

[Bob Flood]

marcus

Not that you have enough choices already, I did a web search for editshare, and got a hit called “alternative to editshare”

https://ieei.com/ieeibroadcast/why.shtml

his quote was upper 4 figures US$ as opposed to lower 5

“I like video because its so fast!”

Bob Flood
Greer & Associates, Inc.

[Mark Palmos]

[Bob Flood] “his quote was upper 4 figures US$ as opposed to lower 5”

hey bob
nice to hear from you mate!
was that 5grad for the vshare?
it seems the others are not really for editing.
i think we will go the separate drive for the two workstations route…

now its a question of whether to get a SATA controllser card with 4 or 8 channels, and have a bunch of 1m cables coming out of the macpro to a home made raid5 box (cheapest and fastest) or a controller card with a single 2m esata cable going to a raid5 box and have all those drives come off one controller (slower but less messy and would have a guarantee on a single product if it fails.

im not sure of any other alternatives given we want raid5.

catcha later
m

[Mark Palmos]

[Bob Zelin] “The product is Tiger Technologies Meta LAN – it’s not fictional, and Lance at O Productions SWEARS that it does ProRes422HQ with no issues. This is the “secret” product (smart-ass !).”

bob
this does sound very interesting.
any idea of price?
thanks
mark