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  • Todd Beabout

    June 20, 2006 at 6:11 pm

    OT question here:

    Since you are offering training you will probably be a good person to ask. Is there any advantage to Shake over AE or Combustion? I’ve looked at it at NAB and read up on the program, but it is still 2.5D right? And isn’t that a new feature? Just wondering what the advantage to this program is…

    -Todd Beabout
    Vazda Studios

  • Damian Allen

    June 20, 2006 at 6:23 pm

    Hey Todd,

    That’s kind of a loaded question, but the short answer is yes. Shake has a robust 32-bit float architecture (AE 7 now supports float, but most of the filters won’t work in it) and the node-based compositing offers amazing flexibility over timeline-based compositing when doing visual effects comps. Combustion does have a node view, but it’s really secondary to the timeline – it’s hard to work exclusively in the node view.

    Shake also has a very powerful tracking, stabilization, and matchmoving workflow, that allows you to do some pretty tricky stuff without significant sub-pixel softening. That in addition to a host of features like warper, morpher, optical flow retiming, automatic image stabilization etc.

    As far as 3D, it is only 2.5D, but it’s often used with float-based renders to do some pretty significant scene adjustment and relighting to 3D renders.

    It’s really a question of job: if you’re doing a motion graphics project After Effects would be the happiest home. If you’re doing a visual effects shot, Shake is going to a much better place to get things done.

    Damian Allen
    Certifiable Pixel Pusher/VFX Consultant

  • Todd Beabout

    June 20, 2006 at 6:36 pm

    Cool. Thanks for the info. I’ve been wanting to get a “real-world” opinion on this app since NAB last year. I use Combustion quite a lot, so I have an idea of how useful the node-based workflow can be, but I will agree with you that it is not where it should be in Combustion. Still useful at times though.

    With the new $499 price point I will most likely be trying Shake out. Wish you would come to Alabama for some training! =)

    Thanks again.

    -Todd Beabout
    Vazda Studios

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