Shake discontinued, OT kind of…..

[Erik Lindahl]

Ouch, if Apple think something like Motion can replace Shake someone at the dev- or management teams have been smoking the funny pipe. Motion for sure has it’s place in a production suite, no question about it, but Shake is a COMPOSITOR compared to Motion that’s more of an animation / motion (After Effects) suite with some compositing capabilities. At the moment it’s more of a complement to Final Cut Pro than anything. A cheap-mans After Effects tool if you may…

Is there an official statement somewhere? I just see apple.com/shake leads to the production suite.

Erik Lindahl
Freecloud Communication
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[Aaron Neitz]

It’s been EOL for a long time.

At $500 it WAS a great deal on a very solid 2D compositor. Motion never was or never will be a replacement for serious compositing.

Heck I’m using Shake right now! It’s still a massively useful piece of software. They should have sold the IP off…

[Erik Lindahl]

Yeah, I know they announced 2007 in the spring it was EOL but you could buy a “site licence” with access to the code or something in the lines of it. Shake was at the time supposed to be replaced by a modern compositor coming with-in 2 or so years.

Erik Lindahl
Freecloud Communication
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[Mark Suszko]

The Discreet Logic Combustion Community pours out a 40 in sympathy for another dead homie…

[Matt Callac]

[Mark Suszko] “The Discreet Logic Combustion Community pours out a 40 in sympathy for another dead homie…”

Hahaha. Funniest thing I read all day.

-mattyc

[Hector Candleleven]

I believe that Apple is working on another “Shake” product called Phenomenon… at least according to the rumor mills.

[Erik Lindahl]

Well there is still hopes. A compositor built for the future is what was stated back when Shake was put on ice. Snow Leopard does bring a lot of “the future” very much closer.

Erik Lindahl
Freecloud Communication
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[Alan Okey]

[Paul Harb] “Apple has been in such a position for the last 6 years to really dig into the high end media creation market, and they just seem to keep taking steps backwards. From the really small 2 year update to FCS to saying with a straight face that you dont need Shake, you can do it all in Motion.”

Here’s a post in another thread I made a few days ago that’s relevant to this discussion:

https://forums.creativecow.net/readpost/8/1046432

Here’s an excerpt:

As for compositing, Apple bought Shake, an old industry workhorse, years after it had become entrenched in the compositing world. Since Apple bought it, most effects houses have moved away from it to newer tools that are being actively developed by companies with much greater knowledge of the compositing/VFX market – products like Nuke, Fusion, Combustion, Toxik, etc. I really don’t think any pro compositors are expecting Apple to produce anything that will compete with any of the products I mentioned. Apple just doesn’t develop and sell $3000 apps. Motion doesn’t compete with After Effects, let alone high end compositing apps. I’m not waiting breathlessly for “Phenomenon,” the rumored next-generation compositing app from Apple that will replace Shake. My opinion is that Apple isn’t interested in anything above the prosumer level market. Apple is more likely to come out with iComposite than a real competitor to high end compositing apps that already exist.

In hindsight, I should have left out Combustion. Autodesk seems as intent on killing it as Apple did with Shake. A million fiery deaths in hell are not enough for Autodesk.

[Gary Adcock]

[Alan Okey] “In hindsight, I should have left out Combustion. Autodesk seems as intent on killing it as Apple did with Shake. A million fiery deaths in hell are not enough for Autodesk. “

I disagree for the time being,

Autodesk has just announced new support options and Combustion versions for the mac just a couple of weeks ago.

gary adcock
Studio37
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[Alan Okey]

Do you have a link to these announcements? I could find no reference to this on the Combustion support page.