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Several Formats -> One Timeline
Hi all,
We’re working on a documentary in Xpress Pro (either 4.8.4 or 5.5.1) where the bulk of the material we shot was done on S16mm, telecined to HD D5 1080p/24, downconverted to 30 fps ND DVCAM, and we want to finish in an HD project at 23.976p with 48KHz audio.
Now, that’s the bulk of the material we’re working with. And apparently, the only way to successfully bring this in with one-pass is analog, video over the component cables through Mojo, RCA for audio, with an RS-422 -> USB converter for timecode. Otherwise we’ve run into some rather funky frame issues.
However, this being a documentary, there are quite a few other formats I was wanting some advice getting into the 23.976p timeline with proper pulldown. This material all has burn-in windows, so timecode isn’t necessarily the issue…more than anything we don’t want to be playing 30 fps material frame-for-frame in a 24 fps timeline. So, here are the formats and any advice is welcome.
-DVCAM tapes at 29.97 DROP FRAME with 32KHz audio.
-Quicktime .mov files at 29.97 (mostly MOS) that are full frame 4:3 (that we’d like to be 4:3 (columns) in an anamorphic 16:9 like the rest of the DVCAMs)
-DVD and VHS – just want advice on getting control of these materials to determine “A” frame or more detailed instructions on unlinking, modifying pullin, and relinking (have had some difficulties getting modified pullin to stick)
That’s just about everything. Thanks in advance for what’s already been quite helpful in the past.
-Andres
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4 Replies
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The only thing I can think to recommend is whack the shooter over the head a few times & each time say “48kHZ, 48kHZ, 48kHZ”!” There’s no reason whatsoever shooting DV or DVCAM at 32kHZ. In the past it’s caused problems & I’m not saying that’s your problem per se. It’s just bad shooting practice. I bet they had no clue, which is another story.
Bill
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before you kill the cameraman, bear in mind that if its material mastered onto dv then maybe its at 32khz to make use of the second pair of tracks. There is no reason to record at less than 48khz on camera apart from being too lazy to check the menus through after taking the camera out of its wrapper, but I have come across instances of people cloning hd on dv for offline and recording at 32 to free up tracks 3/4 to record m&e. I believe most dv record decks can only utilise tracs 3/4 when recording at 32. what can you expect from a cassette the size of a matchbox!
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Now now… I never said kill, ahemmm 🙂
Yep, tracks 3/4 are for those “linear DV” edit systems :-\
Seriously though, I really wonder in all these years, how many times anyone has actually used it that way & also why manufacturers still include that as a feature with DV/DVCAM. Sony wants to keep it’s consumer market happy I suppose? 🙂 Just curious, does DVCPro/50 have this?
Bill
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Okay, I think we got the quicktime situation figured out.
SO…
Is it going to be necessary to change our drop frame code to non-drop? and if so, how?
as far as BWFs go, whenever I import them I get a PMM_INSUFFICIENT_MEDIA pop-up and can’t play them.
What about VHS and DVD? any way to get precise capture of that material and have it play at 24 frames?
I haven’t had any real problems with Avid playing the 32 KHz audio alongside the 48…so we can cut that topic loose.
any helpful advice??
Thanks,
-Andres
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