Seperating Multicamera Tracks

[John Rofrano]

You’re welcome, and just to clarify for others reading this… this is NOT the way to UNDO the Vegas multicam master track. It is a way to pull the footage from a single media source up to a new track for processing and can be used as a technique regardless of whether you are using multicam or not. In Roger’s case he needed to use Track Motion on just one camera and not the other.

It is based on two principals:

1. You can use the 8 & 2 keys on the Numeric keyboard to move selected events up and down to higher or lower tracks
2. You can select all of the events that use the same media by first selecting the media in the Project Media Pool from one of it’s events, and then from the media telling it to select all of the events that use it

Not something you use every day but good to know when you need it. 😉

~jr

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[Joe Mantaratz]

Would it not be easier to make duplicate tracks before creating the multicam track instead and use that as an undo of a sort? Not sure why Sony decided to have it combine all the tracks into one. I’m still not a huge fan of how it is done so I am sticking to my own methods and it avoids all the issues I see posted. It is nice to be able to click in the preview window to chose which view to use but it sure has is drawbacks when you need to move things around and get creative.

[Roger Bansemer]

I felt the same way about using Multicam until I reluctantly gave it a try but now I find it helps immensely. With the method John told me, I can edit between cameras with multicam and then if I choose easily and quickly separate them out and not feel so locked in.

[Jeff Schroeder]

I too, have been avoiding this method for the same reasons. Roger, the important point of the previous post was “Would it not be easier to make duplicate tracks before creating the multicam track instead and use that as an undo of a sort?” Will this work?

Jeff

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[Roger Bansemer]

I’m sure not the expert on any of this but I’m saving lots of time using multicam. I use to put several camera tracks on top of each other and I would basically have to guess where to switch cameras, split a clip on the top track, drag it to the right to view the camera below, etc. I had a pretty good idea of where to split clips but it was cumbersome to say the least.
Using multicam I can easily switch between clips and then if I want later I can still move camera 1 to a different track and the edits will still be the same length, etc.
After I separate them I can continue editing from there as if nothing were ever put into multicam to begin with. At least that’s how I’m seeing it.

[John Rofrano]

…the important point of the previous post was “Would it not be easier to make duplicate tracks before creating the multicam track instead and use that as an undo of a sort?” Will this work?

No, that would not have solved Roger’s problem. That’s why I specifically posted to say that this is NOT a technique to UNDO what multicam does.

Roger need to apply Track Motion to one camera to zoom in a bit to cut out something in the shot. Keeping the tracks separate before the multicam has nothing to do with this because once the tracks are combined for multicam, all Track settings are lost to the new multicam track. With two cameras on a single track, there is no way to apply Track Motion to one and not the other (short of lots, and lots, of keyframes)

This is a method of isolating the events from a single piece of media onto a new track for the purpose of processing them at the Track level. It has absolutely NOTHING to do with multicam. Roger just happened to be using multicam on this project but it would work for ANY project where you need to isolate events from a single piece of media onto a new track.

He now has two master tacks, one for each camera so he can process them separate at the Track level after the multicam editing is complete. You can, for example, use this technique for color correcting each camera separately (although you can just color correct the media too)

~jr

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http://www.vasst.com

[Joe Mantaratz]

Yes John is correct in that this is particular to Roger’s problem it is not an answer as it only provides a means to maintain the original tracks before creating the mulitcam track. I don’t edit this way but have played with it enough to see the benefits and draw backs.

Personally I create my own multi track views using track motion and save it as a preset. It adds a little to the work but affords me the flexibility to be more creative. Might be a case however of “this is how I have always done it” so chances are there are far better methods than mine.

[John Rofrano]

Personally I create my own multi track views using track motion and save it as a preset. It adds a little to the work but affords me the flexibility to be more creative. Might be a case however of “this is how I have always done it” so chances are there are far better methods than mine.

This is how multicam script plug-ins like Ultimate S Pro, InfinitiCAM, and Excalibur do it as well. They give you a multi-track view, keep your original tracks, and build a multicam master track that you can delete and rebuild as many times as you’d like. Lots of people prefer it this way.

~jr

http://www.johnrofrano.com
http://www.vasst.com

[Jeff Schroeder]

Thanks John,

Your expert advice is always timely and always appreciated.
Thank you too, Roger.

Jeff

http://www.narrowroadmedia.com