seperate files vs. sub clips CS3 on Mac

[Aanarav Sareen]

[Old Man in The Garden] “I was hoping to use Premiere for capture and then just use bridge to sort the clips when I’m all done. I don’t see a way to do this with the Mac versions sub clips.”

Can you clarify this statement? In paragraph 1, you mention scene detect. But, in this quoted line you mention sub-clips. These are different things.

– Aanarav

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[Corbin Gross]

Sorry if I sound confused, I am a little lost in video apps sometimes.

In reading the manual it seems that Premiere CS3 on a PC sorts scenes from a tape in seperate .AVI files and they’d appear seperately in the bin and also in the folder where the project assets are stored.
In Premiere CS3 on a Mac the scenes are divided in to subclips which show as sepereate clips in the bin but one master file in in the OS so in bridge there’s just one wopping .MOV.

Is there a way to make the capture behave more like the PC version.
I’d like to have a bunch of stand alone files and grab what I need for different projects. But it’s looking like I’ll have to keep one project and save-as for each new video.

I hope that’s more clear, sorry if I’m giving anybody a headache.

[Ryan Quan]

Did you ever figure out how to capture individual files on the Mac side? I have the same workflow as you and would like to know how to capture scene detected clips into self contained files vs. subclips. Let me know! Thanks.

[Corbin Gross]

I think so. You gotta log the clips, which takes a while but saves time in the end.

You scrub through the tape and set the in and out points for each clip. You can also name it and give it a description, which works perfectly for what I’m doing. You can either use the controller in the capture window or go through the tape in your camera’s VTR and jot down the times and names on a piece of paper and then type them in to the corresponding fields. Then once you get the whole tape logged, you to to file>batch capture. Premiere will whip through the tape and grab all the footage in separate, named clips. Sometimes it will get choked up and say something about increasing pre roll, just rewind the tape a little bit and it should be fine.

Hope that helps.

[Ryan Quan]

I prefer the workflow on the Windows version of Premiere when using scene detection. It’s much easier for me rename AVI files later in Bridge vs. spending the time to scrub the tape and log everything in the capture window.

I’m assuming by your response, you did not find a solution to doing that on the Mac side. I recently purchased a Macbook Pro and I would like to use the laptop for digitizing tapes, leaving my PC free to edit.

Let me know if you figured out a way to do this! Thanks.

[Jon Barrie]

I’m sorry to be the one to break this to you, but the mac version of Premiere Pro is only in its 1st version. It’s been on the PC for 3 versions now. PC is a better version of it and has better workflow and speeds for working in the timeline. I would hope that cs4 will be the same PC and Mac functions as they have had time to bring OnLocation to the Mac platform in the new cs4 version (cs3 only worked on PC framework). While still on cs3 there is no way to use the scene detect feature on a Mac and have the video cut on scenes. It can only make automated subclips from the original full length capture. This is clearly stated in all of the Adobe literature, I’ve tried to work around it but there ain’t no way.
– Jon 🙁

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[Ryan Quan]

Thanks for being the bearer of bad news! I figured as much that it wasn’t possible. Hopefully they fix all the quirks in CS4. One of my biggest complaints is that Encore projects are not cross-platform compatible!

[Jon Barrie]

Funny… I’ve never needed to run away from an Author to do it from another platform. But that would suprise me if they aren’t compatible. (I’ll check that one out myselft next chance I get).
I’m sure they’ll iron out the coding bugs with cs4. check this link to see some of the stuff going on with Premiere Pro cs4. Very cool.
– Jon 😉

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[Ryan Quan]

I didn’t have the patience to watch all the videos to see what they’re doing with Premiere Pro CS4, maybe you can point me in the right direction… but holy shit! Did you see what they have up their sleeve for video metadata and flash authoring? Check out the “Technology Preview” clip.

The two new features that impressed me the most was their text to speech recognition. Lets say you have some interview footage. You can OCR the audio into text, then you can search the text and jump to that exact point in the timeline where the person says that specific word! If I’m not making sense, then watch the video! Haha.

And the other cool feature is Flash Authoring! No more coding. They are creating an Encore like interface where you can drag and drop and create fully interactive web content!

I CAN’T WAIT FOR CS4! GIVE IT TO ME NOW! =)

[Danny Mccorquodale]

I have CS4 for Mac, and this problem still exists. Scene detect creates one monolithic .mov file and breaks into subclips within the project used to capture. So it’s impossible to delete unwanted clips or sort unrelated clips after capture.

I agree with Ryan, scrubbing the tape and setting in/out points is too inefficient. IMO, this is a fundamental flaw that Adobe should have addressed in CS4. A tapeless camera will solve this, but I’m not ready to make that purchase yet and I have a large number of mini DV tapes I need to capture.

Ryan or Corbin (or anyone else unhappy with this), did you ever find a solution?

Is there another free or very low $$ Mac program that can do scene detect and produce multiple files? I’m going to take a look a iMovie (I’m relatively new to Mac) but based on experience w iPhoto, I’m not counting on it.

Thanks,
Danny

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