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  • Separate video and audio dissolves workflow?

    Posted by James Culbertson on July 21, 2011 at 6:20 am

    So, I finally see you can create a video-only transition once audio and video is expanded (I set a custom key command for “expand audio/video for splits; and using to select the video edit point). And then you can ripple the incoming and outgoing audio tracks to create an overlap and then drag the audio fade sliders…

    Is there a faster way to do the audio portion of this hidden in the key commands or elsewhere? Would be nice if there was a way to create an overlap with less key strokes.

    Alex Gollner replied 14 years, 10 months ago 5 Members · 9 Replies
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  • Craig Seeman

    July 21, 2011 at 6:31 am
  • James Culbertson

    July 21, 2011 at 6:52 am

    Yes, I remember that workflow. Thanks for that. And Alex’s sound-only dissolve effect is very useful in some circumstances.

    But but for a mixed duration audio and video cross dissolve without detaching audio…

    Is there some way of more efficiently creating the audio overlap in expanded view?

    I’m assuming not.

  • Craig Seeman

    July 21, 2011 at 2:32 pm

    Not that I or anyone has yet figured out. It’s one of the inconsistencies in the GUI. Video only and Audio only dissolves are not done the same way so if you have two different transition durations you’d have to do two different methods to get there.

  • Noah Kadner

    July 21, 2011 at 2:43 pm

    If you’re using a video transition already- this cannot be done without detaching audio.

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  • Simon Ubsdell

    July 21, 2011 at 5:12 pm

    I think what it requires is for someone to make a video only cross dissolve template – not sure if this is possible as I’m not near FCPX/Motion 5 right now, but Brendan will probably have finished one in the time it takes for you to read this.

    Then you could use separate Effects for audio and video and not have to detach the audio. Arguably there’s a way of making separate controls for audio and video within the same template but I think not …

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  • James Culbertson

    July 21, 2011 at 5:46 pm

    If you expand the clip and add a cross-dissolve transition it is video only.

    Then you can overlap the audio and drag the audio-fader to create a mixed duration cross-dissolve.

    Definitely clunky. But no need to detach audio.

  • Craig Seeman

    July 21, 2011 at 6:41 pm

    [James Culbertson] “Definitely clunky. But no need to detach audio.”

    But that’s the problem. If you need to do that for a clip or two it’s minor. If you need to add short cross dissolves to a lot of clips it’s a major slow down.

    Typically one might need to add short crossfades to a lot clips and, depending on what’s going on, also change whether they start at beginning, middle, end of edit as one would do in FCP7.

    Fader handles and fade shape are good if you need to do detail work but an impediment when one has to do bulk work.

  • James Culbertson

    July 21, 2011 at 7:41 pm

    Agreed that it is slow.

    Do you find that detaching the audio speeds this up for you? Seems kind of clunky in a different way.

    Is there a way to reverse the detaching process?

  • Alex Gollner

    July 22, 2011 at 3:33 pm

    Sadly you can’t use Motion to create a video only cross-dissolve. The audio crossfade is applied by FCP.

    All one could do is create a video cross dissolve that has more controls: centre, start and stop time, but the video transition could never be longer than the audio transition with this method.

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