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  • selling stock footage – worth it or not?

    Posted by Russ Stiggants on December 7, 2007 at 7:30 am

    Forgive me if this has been raised before but I’m wondering if selling stock footage is in any way lucrative. Some qualifiers: I know many would want me to define ‘lucrative’, and I know stock footage houses might say “It depends on your video” (!) Clearly images of a celebrity in a compromising position would be of more value than, say, images of a flower show –but then ‘flower show’ images might also find a willing market.

    I am also aware of the different types of ‘stock footage’ – that which is high quality, highly stylised and offered ‘exclusively’ would be worth more via Getty Images than say something more mundane and offered through those growing numbers of ‘Royalty Free’ sites.

    I further understand the issues related to talent and property release agreements and how this further refines what can be offered for sale.

    I am trying to make sense of all this becuse I have looked at my extensive PAL library of Broadcast-Standard SD images and believe that I certainly have images which could be put up for sale. As a freelance videographer with a mainstream TV background, I have much ‘generic’ footage, well shot and tripoded with good BG sound, across a range of industry and commerce subjects. I believe a lot of my stuff would be useful in many ways, not only for traditional TV use, but also by those who may want some footage to spice up a Powerpoint presentation or other digital presentations, including web-video (this is where I personally see the greatest potential).

    I have researched and understand that material most sought after is that with a ‘generic’ look; ie – a short grab of pipeworks in an industrial setting might be helpfull for a number of different uses in, say, ‘heavy industry’ videos/presentations, as might a blood-red sunset in the Outback of Australia or a night shot of a generic oil rig be helpful to illustrate ‘climate change’, as a further example.

    The questions are:

    What is the experience of forum contributors?

    Notwithstanding the issues raised above, has anyone making a sustainable income from stock footage (by ‘sustainable’, I don’t necessarily mean thousands of dollars a month – but I don’t mean tens of dollars either). I’d be happy with a modest, regular income – if it works at all. What is ‘modest’? …. well, I don’t want to spend hours on it for ‘peanuts’.

    It further seems to me that the ‘royalty free’ sites take the biggest cut (why am I not surprised?) – and the contributor gets very little?

    Has anyone had any good/bad experiences with these stock footage website ‘middlemen’ and their pricing structures? Can anyone recommend a good one through personal experience?

    What would be the best ‘clip’ length; would I hang, say, 10-15 secs of each sub-set shot within a genre (ie: ship#1 (stand alone), ship#2 (ditto), ship#3 (ditto) — or would it be better to offer a ‘medley’ of shots as one long ‘complete’ video (ship#1,2 and 3 as one 45 second piece)? And do I offer my videos to just one Royalty Free site – or a number of them?

    Has anyone set up their own stock website (as a web-designer I understand metatags and other issues about ‘Google find’) but could this be more effective in the longer term?

    There are hundreds of further questions one could list – but they’re all summed up by asking: Selling stock footage – is it really worth it or not?

    Any comments would be appreciated.

    Chris Ward replied 11 years, 1 month ago 17 Members · 32 Replies
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  • Rick Dolishny

    December 7, 2007 at 3:03 pm

    Sign up with a stock site that mirrors your corporate culture, get your stuff up there, automate the entire process (download only) and collect small royalty cheques every quarter. Do NOT try to do it yourself. There are processes in place that make it easy for you, of course they charge for the management and google presence they offer, but try it yourself and you’ll become a full-time web developer.

    The key is to do as little as possible while ensuring producers have access to it when they need it with the minimum of barriers.

    You will not make a lot of money, but you will make money on the stuff you put out there; and it sounds like you have a lot of well logged material. It’s the practice of long-tail distribution: there is always a market for something. Your sales will never be zero if you have enough obscure stuff out there that someone wants.

    Go for it.

    And send us a link to your _stock.com shop when it’s up and running.

  • Russ Stiggants

    December 8, 2007 at 11:18 am

    Thanks Rick….

    You’ve confirmed what I thought. I guess I was looking for some ‘magic bullet’ that made stock footage worth at least something above the poverty line.

    I was (and still am) hoping to find stock footage sites that actually pay

  • Russ Stiggants

    December 8, 2007 at 11:49 am

    Sorry people – I meant ‘POND 5’ as opposed to ‘post 5’ – Freudian slip!

  • Rick Dolishny

    December 10, 2007 at 2:45 pm

    Another crude way of describing this marketing model is “volume” sales, but that suggests the Wal-Mart mentality and that’s not what I’m suggesting. Sure, it’s great to get $1500 for a five second clip (I have a library of deep-arctic polar bears that fetches that regularly), but I’m suggesting and you seem to agree that it’s not the five dollar sale that matters, it’s the hundreds of five dollar sales you might generate each month that really ads up. This model could not exist or be sustained without the nearly-free distribution model the internet offers.

    Of course, if you have footage that is just so unique by all means set that $1500 price, you will find a buyer!

    Best of luck with your venture.

  • Melissa Smith

    January 15, 2008 at 3:58 am

    I’ve been selling stock media for a year and a half now. I am almost to the point where I can make a full time salary off of it. I do sell mostly animated backgrounds, which I actually think is harder b/c they take longer to create than some footage.

    But to answer your question- Yes- it is definitely worth it. Especially if you already have a library of footage stocked up! Right now that footage is sitting, rotting on your shelf– it could be making you money! I’ve tried most of the major stock sites and sold on most of them for awhile. However, I got tired of the hassle of uploading to multiple sites so I choose my favorites and stuck to those few.

    I upload mostly to Revostock.com. They had the easiest and most hassle free upload/approval system of any of the major sites. They also have a wonderful producer community and their technical support is excellent. Their royalty rates are 45% for a non-exclusive clip and 60% for an exclusive clip– you can choose your exclusivity on a clip by clip basis too! Check out their forums– they recently had several producers say why they love their site and one of them mentions how much he takes in each month from the site. You can sell audio files and After Effects projects there too if you have them!

    Hope this helps give you some more information about the stock business.

  • Russ Stiggants

    January 15, 2008 at 2:17 pm

    Thanks for your advice Melissa – it’s good to hear from a producer who is actually turning a buck out of stock.

    I do take your point that the more ‘generic’ animated stuff has opportunities – the more I look on the stock sites, I see more and more of that being offered. I will check out Revostock again – I am also looking at Pond5, so if anyone has experience there, I’d appreciate comments. I do agree that the hassle of uploading (and I know there are ‘auto uploaders’ out there) seems to offer challenges…but I guess they can be tolerated on the understanding that it might be worth it in the end.

    I’d also like to hear from those who may actually use stock footage (any ‘customers’ out there?) to get an understanding of how they use stock footage and what they may be looking for. For example, are there people out there only looking for a ‘grab’ to insert in a Powerpoint – or maybe only interested in a ‘still’ from stock footage? What about ‘screen’ sizes? Smaller screen sizes at more modest resolutions than may be needed for ‘mainstream’ television raises interesting selling opportunities – and scalable pricing structures.

    I certainly have an extensive library which I am looking at afresh with the notion that some stuff at least is ‘offerable’ as stock footage; as I see it, this is a new area for many pro camerapersons/videographers like me (particularly those who have never trashed original camera tapes), so I am feeling my way.

    I really appreciate your comments – and those of others who may want to contribute.

  • Randy Taylor

    February 12, 2008 at 7:40 pm

    Melissa,

    I have been investigating developing some stock footage products. Mostly shot video footage.

    You mentioned that most of your Revostock products were animated backgrounds. If possible I would like to look at some of your products on Revostock. To do this I need your Revostock producer’s name or a link to your portfolio there.

    Regards,

    RW

    PS: I inadvertently push something about “being a friend”. Not sure what that is all about. I was just trying to see how to send you the above message without posting to this thread. I am really new to this site and do not understand exactly how things work here.

  • Craig Mccourry

    February 24, 2008 at 7:34 pm

    If you have quality stock footage, we have a new concept on bringing that footage into the marketplace at http://www.StockFootageMarket.com. One of the big advantages with our service is that you have direct contact with the stock footage buyer. This can lead to building a relationship with companies that might need the type of footage you offer on a regular basis – including hiring you to do more shoots for them. Full disclosure: I am the manager of this website.

    All the best,
    Craig

  • Charley Fernandez

    April 17, 2008 at 3:58 am

    Hello: A bit to late to answer, but definitely you will make money by selling your stock footage. As some have mentioned, your videos are stored, not doing a thing for you.

    Anyway, we are currently developing a stock house and we are in need of videos of all kind…visit us when you have the opportunity.

    http://www.motiondrops.com

    I also recommend revostock, definitely one of the best, great customer support and great commission. Pond5 is another good option.

    There are others out there but to be honest, the upload process is so painful that it becomes unworthy……..that’s besides their low commission….just 20%….after you do all the work…

    Cheers.

  • Russ Stiggants

    April 17, 2008 at 10:40 am

    Thanks for this Charley….

    I have looked at your site and am interested in exploring the options…unlike other stock sites however, I don’t have any clear idea about how you can help me, what your commission is or how I would get my images to you, given you are in Florida and I am in Australia. With Pond5 I can send QT files by disc, rather than attempting long uploads.

    While I appreciate your post, Let me say as a weather-beaten ol’ journalist, I find that the responses I am getting are from outfits like yours keen to represent my (potential) video-library – but remarkably I am not hearing from fellow video-pro’s who have used any of the growing numbers of stock-sites out there in internet-space – and more importantly can report that they are making money, relative to their ‘cost-of-acquisition’.

    This indicates that either (a) selling stock footage returns ‘peanuts’ in terms of value to the shooter, (b) it’s still the province of amateurs and kids with ‘toy-cams’ who reckon 20-bucks is really good, or (c) so-called ‘hi-end’ video sales are the province of Getty Images and the like.

    Being self-critical, my stuff is in the middle to upper-end of the range. I don’t want to sell stuff for hundreds of dollars a minute, but neither do I want to sell it for chicken-feed.

    I am still to find that middle ground.

    That’s why I started this thread and after 4 months am still not getting the response I’ve been hoping for.

    Is this because the pro’s are not interested in selling stock, or is it because the ‘fundamentals’ still are not right?

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