selecting entire “tracks”

[Jeremy Garchow]

Ha! Good one Andreas.

What’s weird to me is that when you do select the generic “Title” role, the clip is automatically collapsed in to the very thin view. I wish this was selectable so that if you assign a custom title role, it would collapse just the same.

Jeremy

[Craig Alan]

Thanks Jeremy,

That’s what i did when I started. Just repeat these steps to get back on track? But even this leaves cam A a3 and a4 on which don’t want. Each cam records to 4 channels.

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[Jeremy Garchow]

When you select the monitoring angle in the angle editor, simply turn off channel 3 and 4.

[Craig Alan]

Thanks Jeremy,

Just tested this. In the angle editor FC has made three long clips out of A B and C cams, on tracks, and synced. I can highlight one and choose which channels are on or off in the inspector. I do this for all three. On A cam I engage a1 and a2 and turn off a3 and a4. On the others I mute all audio. I go back to my timeline with the angle viewer open. If I switch an A cam clip for a B cam clip all four channels show up edited into the clip. Now when I first set up the multicam clip, I selected the A cam to be A/V and the others to be just Video. But I guess that no longer applies. I need to select the Video icon in the angle viewer before applying the edit or else FC keeps changing the audio channels from the ones I selected even though I just selected these in the angle editor.

That said if what you said would work it should have edited a B angle clip with no audio since in the angle editor I muted the audio track. In any case I get what was wrong. The icons in the multicam viewer got changed.

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[Jeremy Garchow]

Cool.

You can easily select the clips in the timeline and reconfigure the audio channels as well.

Jeremy

[Craig Alan]

Yes. That I got from the get go. Though I was having trouble doing this as an entire track in the timeline. Not always but sometimes if i highlighted two clips never mind the entire multicam track, the inspector would not allow changes made to the channel selection. Thus I had to do this one clip at a time.

But I was confused why I needed to keep checking what audio was being used in each clip of the multicam.

I just ran another test. Opened the angle editor and muted the a1 and b1 that I want active. Went back to storyline. It’s muted. Made a change in storyline. Change was made in angle editor. So they are supposed to mirror each other. Like you said.

But when I edit from the angle viewer, if I choose audio or A/V for one of the angles that has audio muted in the storyline and the angle editor, then all four active channels of that angle are edited into the timeline.

Bug?

A seems to honor the a3 and a4 being muted. Though I know earlier that kept changing too.

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[Jeremy Garchow]

[Craig Alan] “Yes. That I got from the get go. Though I was having trouble doing this as an entire track in the timeline. Not always but sometimes if i highlighted two clips never mind the entire multicam track, the inspector would not allow changes made to the channel selection. Thus I had to do this one clip at a time. “

You have to select the clips, and you can’t select *mismatched clips. This is where selecting with the timeline index is very handy. Open the index, click “Clips” and down towards the bottom click the “Video” tab. Then select all the multicam clips.

[Craig Alan] “Bug?”

I don’t think it’s a bug as you do need a little bit of separation so that you can make changes if need be. Changes don’t ripple all of the time, and it mostly ripples from the browser to the timeline, and not vice versa. Also, if you make changes in the browser, the next time you add the multiclip to the timeline, it will reflect those changes. I try and make audio channel selections before I start editing as much as possible, but I am usually able to instruct the audio tech before recording on where to send the signals so that when the footage comes back to me, I have what I need.

[Craig Alan]

So the angle viewer is a representation of the browser not the timeline?
Yet the A angle is honoring the selection in the timeline (that is only a1 and a2 are active including new edits). This should be consistent, no?

Now If I select channels in the browser, and Cam B and C are muted, will the multicam auto syncing still take place?

All this aside: Thanks for your help. Have a much firmer grip on this entire workflow.

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[Jeremy Garchow]

*edited for clarity

[Craig Alan] “So the angle viewer is a representation of the browser not the timeline? “

You can see the angles in either the Event Viewer (which is a representation of the clip in the Event) or the Viewer (which is representation of the clip in the timeline).

The angle viewer will ripple some changes to all clips everywhere, FCPX gives a pop up warning when this about to happen.

[Craig Alan] “Now If I select channels in the browser, and Cam B and C are muted, will the multicam auto syncing still take place?”

As far as I know, FCPX will still use audio to sync, regardless of audio channel config, but it’s worth a test. I almost always have matching tc, so audio syncing is less important to me unless something is not syncing due to flagrant tc.

I usually sync everything, then make audio channel assignments, set the monitoring angle of audio, choose to switch video only, and begin editing.

If audio needs to change, I can add another instance of the multi clip to the timeline, and reconfigure the audio on the timeline on the separate instance, or I add the audio from the regular clip and not the multi clip. It depends on what’s needed.

Jeremy

[Craig Alan]

Thanks. Got it. I thought the angle viewer was a version of the viewer since it plays along with the timeline. But since you edit from it, it makes sense that it is what is in the event (which I was calling browser).

One more quick question. Should I create the multicam clip, select it in the browser, before starting to edit, and select the channels? Or select each of the clips I’m using in the browser, select the channels, and then create the multicam clip? Either way I can always override these choices in the inspector for a given clip in the timeline?

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