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  • seeking nanoflash comparison footage

    Posted by Gerry Curtis on November 21, 2009 at 8:40 pm

    Hello,

    I’m considering buying or at least renting a Nanoflash and after considerable searching haven’t found any side by side comparisons of the “standard” SxS XDCAM HQ to the nano’s 160 long GOP recording. Anyone done this or know of where I can find some?

    Thanks!
    Gerry

    http://www.digitalkilnstudios.com
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    Bob Pierce replied 16 years, 5 months ago 4 Members · 9 Replies
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  • Don Greening

    November 21, 2009 at 8:51 pm

    The Convergent Design website has lots of samples but no side by side comparison shots, which is what you’re after, right?

    there’s this that has one small comparo shot:

    https://library.creativecow.net/articles/palmer_michael/nano_and_EX3.php

    Failing that you might want to contact Michael Palmer (click on his head at the top for contact info) because I know he has some personal comparison shots. At least he did several months ago when he sent me some. No, I don’t have them anymore.

    – Don

  • Gerry Curtis

    November 21, 2009 at 9:16 pm

    Hi Don,

    Yeah, I’m looking for side by side or 2 separate files, with 2 or 3 seconds of motion that I could check out on my HD monitor.

    I’ve seen Michael’s write ups and positive comments but it would be helpful to see some actual footage and how much of an improvement it makes. Seems like if it was a huge improvement CD should have this on their website, no?

    Thanks!
    Gerry

    http://www.digitalkilnstudios.com
    Color Reel

  • Michael Palmer

    November 21, 2009 at 9:39 pm

    Hey Guys,
    I have a new article coming out this week on the Cow “Nano takes EX3 to New Level”, that includes screen grabs of 100Mbps files and the native EX codec files and you will see a significant improvement.

    Good Luck
    Michael Palmer

  • Don Greening

    November 21, 2009 at 9:48 pm

    Michael,

    You already have that article up on the tutorials section of the COW. Do you mean you’re adding to the existing article with frame grabs or are you talking about a different article that’s pending?

    – Don

  • Michael Palmer

    November 21, 2009 at 9:56 pm

    I didn’t realize it was up. There is a good screen grab comparison in this article.

    Good Luck
    Michael Palmer

  • Don Greening

    November 21, 2009 at 10:09 pm

    Okay, thanks Michael. Do know if any of your compadres at CD have any side by each video comparisons on the web?

    – Don

  • Don Greening

    November 22, 2009 at 6:28 am

    Gerry, here’s a frame grab courtesy of Michael Palmer which demonstrates the difference between the EX codec at 35 Mbps 4:2:0 as opposed to the Nano version at 100 Mbps 4:2:2.

    The caption that accompanies the picture is as follows:

    “73. How does this compression compare to the native Sony EX1/EX3 CODEC?
    Compare the two images below, the left image is from the native XDCam EX is 4:2:0 at 35 Mbps, while the right image was recorded on the nanoFlash (via the HD-SDI out of the EX1) using the XDCAM 422 at 100 Mbps. Note this is an extreme pan and rotation test and not indicative of the normal quality from the EX1.”

    Thanks for the email, Michael.

    – Don

  • Gerry Curtis

    November 22, 2009 at 6:48 am

    Hi,

    It’s nice to see that grab, but it would be more helpful to see some moving footage under more realistic conditions. I appreciate the responses.

    Thanks!
    Gerry

    http://www.digitalkilnstudios.com
    Color Reel

  • Bob Pierce

    November 24, 2009 at 12:30 am

    Wow, those tiny images speak volumes. I’d love to get my hands on some short clips of the same shots, xdcam and nanoflash to see how it compares grading. If I can see an improvement I’d very seriously think about the purchase (got to get those last equipment purchases in before the end of the year!).
    Bob

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