schoeps mk41 cmc6 u for vocals

[Ty Ford]

Yeah, they’re wrong unless they’re using water or some fluid.

The world is a lot less precise with its words these days. For example, adverbs have almost completely been taken over by adjectives.

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[Craig Alan]

Understood. As far as the studio – other than the cork floor, there is almost nothing that absorbs any of the sound and to my ears it sounds hollow and echoey. I do think for a music act it could stand some treatment.

And please read this: it’s proof that “dampening” can be used as a form of sound treatment. Though they did use “damped down” to describe the technique.

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3700603

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[Ty Ford]

Craig,

If it sounds echoey then you have reflected sound. This is not brain surgery.

Sound bounces off of hard, flat surfaces until it runs out of energy.

Find ’em, fix ’em.

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[Bill Davis]

Hi Craig.

Here’s how my thinking would go with this.

A) I have one great mic and another of somewhat lesser quality. Add that to the fact that using a single mic eliminates all phase and imaging issues, I’d see if I could do the job with just the Schoepps first.

I’d start by putting my head where the mic will be and having the talent play and see if I can find the sweet spot where the balance between each instrument and her voice sounds best. Need more voice and less instruments, move the mic toward her mouth, but never forget that the Schoepps is very accurate, very sensitive and has very low self noise – so she does NOT have to use it like a singers dynamic and sing right at it. Just keep it aimed at her mouth because her voice is the star here. Also remember that the mic doesnt have to do everything. Too much guitar? See if he can just play softer.

If I can’t solve it that way only THEN would I bring in the second mic. If you have to do that the 3 to 1 rule becomes important. Try to maintain three times the distance between the two mics as from any mic to the sound source.

Good luck and post how it goes.

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[Craig Alan]

Thanks Bill. I follow. I see the advantages. I appreciate the review. I’ve used this technique for dialog. In fact, all my production teams shoot dialog with a single boom. Kinda surprised that it works this well for music. I’d love to add a couple more of the Schoeps to our arsenal.

I also see the advantage of being able to edit two separate channels. The singer does go from a whisper to fairly strong projection. I will most likely have a student audio tech. It’s hard to ride the levels perfectly and there are times that the guitar will overpower her softest voice.

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[Craig Alan]

Understood. I thought the damp towel over the speaker ‘fix’ was kinda funny.

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