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  • Scaling above 100 percent

    Posted by Robxtwo on September 4, 2006 at 4:46 am

    I have a clip in FCP that has the edge of a light in a corner of the shot. I can scale the image up to about 103 percent and cut the light out. The scaled up image will play fine in FCP, but on export to DV or to a DVD that shot looks jerky… not pixelated or anything like that, it just seems to run jerky. Is this an unavoidable side-effect or is there something I can do to improve its final appearance?

    Thanks in advance.

    Kim Rowley replied 19 years, 8 months ago 6 Members · 12 Replies
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  • Kim Rowley

    September 4, 2006 at 6:50 am

    When I experience this phenomenon (also with freeze frames or images on which I apply a speed change) I drop the deinterlace filter on top of the clip, render and it usually works fine.
    Just my experience while waiting for one of the big guys or gals get back to you with a better answer.

    Dual 2.7 GHz G5, 4GB RAM, ATI Radeon 9650, Xserve RAID, AJA IO, 2 20″ Cinema Display, FCP 5.03, OS X10.4.3

  • Debe

    September 4, 2006 at 1:22 pm

    Did you do a full render before exporting? A real time effect can run oddly if not fully rendered for output.

    debe

  • Walter Biscardi

    September 4, 2006 at 2:32 pm

    [debe] “Did you do a full render before exporting? A real time effect can run oddly if not fully rendered for output.”

    An un-rendered effect will automatically render during export.

    As for the issue with scaling, did you move the shot in the canvas vertically? If so, ensure that your video is sitting on the correct scan line. Look at your Center settings in the Motion tab. The second number should be an even number (if you’re editing in NTSC) or an odd number (if you’re editing in PAL). Something like 0,2 or 0,3.

    If you’re saying it looks fine in FCP and you’re only looking at this on your computer screen, you will never see this issue as it’s an interlacing issue. that’s why it’s important to have an external monitor, even a regular TV, when editing with FCP.

    Walter Biscardi, Jr.
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  • Debe

    September 4, 2006 at 2:53 pm

    [walter biscardi] “An un-rendered effect will automatically render during export.”

    Depends on how he exports, I suppose. If he just hits the spacebar and records wild, then it wouldn’t automatically render. The original poster didn’t specify his method.

    But point taken. If he’s exporting for DVD, using Edit to Tape or Print to Video, it would automatically render.

    debe

  • Walter Biscardi

    September 4, 2006 at 3:30 pm

    [debe] “Depends on how he exports, I suppose. If he just hits the spacebar and records wild, then it wouldn’t automatically render. The original poster didn’t specify his method.”

    That’s not an Export. That’s a Print to Tape. Whether you use Deck Control or a Crash Record and hit play in FCP, that’s a Print to Tape.

    An Export is when you use File > Export

    The two terms are not interchangeable and you should never refer to printing to tape as an “Export.”

    Walter Biscardi, Jr.
    https://www.biscardicreative.com
    HD Editorial & Animation for Food Network’s “Good Eats”
    HD Editorial for “Assignment Earth”

    “I reject your reality and substitute my own!” – Adam Savage, Mythbusters

  • David Roth weiss

    September 4, 2006 at 5:09 pm

    [Kim Rowley] “When I experience this phenomenon (also with freeze frames or images on which I apply a speed change) I drop the deinterlace filter on top of the clip, render and it usually works fine.”

    Kim,

    I’d get out of that habit in a hurry. Deinterlacing is not a fix for things that are broken, its a tool that has very specific uses. While deinterlacing may appear to solve certain issues, in reality all you’ve actually done is avoid finding the cause of the issue, which should not be happening and which should not require deinterlacing. Meanwhile, deinterlacing an interlaced clip with movement can easliy introduce ugly and unsmooth motion.

    DRW

  • Kim Rowley

    September 4, 2006 at 5:26 pm

    Thanks David. I value your advice. But with freeze frames, what could the problem be? Also I have NEVER gotten decent slow motion from FCP… I realize that that question can’t be addressed in a simple forum response. I promise I’ll keep studying!!

    Dual 2.7 GHz G5, 4GB RAM, ATI Radeon 9650, Xserve RAID, AJA IO, 2 20″ Cinema Display, FCP 5.03, OS X10.4.3

  • Robxtwo

    September 4, 2006 at 5:31 pm

    Thanks for the suggestions… It still seems to be jerky… scale is about 103… center is at 0,6, Deinterlacing doesn’t seem to do much to change the appearance. It’s not a big thing… just a little jarring compared to the other footage.

  • David Roth weiss

    September 4, 2006 at 5:35 pm

    The original post in this thread is not about a freeze frame.

  • Bouncing Account needs new email address

    September 4, 2006 at 7:50 pm

    If the shot with the light in it is a lock-down…

    Don’t do the “zoom-in” at all.
    Remove any re-positioning or size-changes on it, then
    export a frame of the shot with the light in it.

    Import that frame into Photoshop.
    “Clone” out the light in the freeze and create a soft alpha-channel only in the area you “fixed” (so the rest of this freeze image is transparent).

    Import that “cleaned up” frame back into FCP and matte it over the problem shot on a video track above.

    The area you “cleaned” will covver the light.

    Render and output.

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