Samsung F80

[John Rofrano]

[Joao Souza] “I found one with a good price and as I watched some reviews saying good things about it, I’d like to know if you guys tried it.”

The link you provided says:

You’ll record in incredibly immersive 1280 x 720 30p HD,

1280 x 720 was “immersive” maybe 5 years ago. It is absolutely anemic by today’s standards. You can get a $99 web camera with higher resolution. Also since they list their recording format as simply “H.264” and not an industry standard like AVCHD, I’m guessing that you may not be able to edit the footage in Vegas Pro because it’s some wacky variant of H.264.

In general, buy a camera from Sony, Panasonic, or JVC, and stay away from these non-standard HD cameras (and even JVC has been know to come up with some wacky formats that don’t work with Vegas Pro too). Make sure whatever camera you buy shoots an industry standard format like AVCHD or HDV or else don’t expect to be able to edit it (it’s hit and miss).

As you can tell, I would NOT recommend that camera.

I would recommend that you get something like the Sony CX190 for just a little more money. It shoots Full HD 1920x1080i in AVCHD format. I have the older Sony CX110 and I love it.

~jr

http://www.johnrofrano.com
http://www.vasst.com

[Joao Souza]

Yep I got it BUT different countries means different prices.
Brazilian border taxes are extremelly high, we pay 60% over price + shipping + store profit etc = some of us like me who are not rich can’t buy whatever we want, we have to find something that fits our pockets.

If I can’t import its files direct to Vegas, can’t I convert them to MPG as an example?
I mean I can’t believe Samsung(or any great brand) would build a cam which we can’t use its files with video editors.
I don’t need a professional cam with super quality, it’s for hobby purposes, just to have fun.I already have a Sony DCR -SR45 and its quality is ultra crap, even photos look like garbage so I just need something with better quality only for having fun with youtube videos.
Please tell me your thoughts now that I gave you more info 😉

I found this Sony for the same price, is it better?

Sony-Handycam-SD-DCR-PJ5 , it says video format = STD MPEG2 – PS

https://www.colombo.com.br/produto/Cine-Foto/Filmadora-Handycam-Sony-DCR-PJ5-com-Projetor-cartao-de-4GB?gclid=CIHMmMGJwrQCFQUFnQod4EcAaQ

We have so much time and so little to do! / Willy Wonka

[John Rofrano]

[Joao Souza] “If I can’t import its files direct to Vegas, can’t I convert them to MPG as an example? “

Yes, but you will loose quality. I’m not saying that the file will not work. I’m just saying that I’ve seen a lot of files not work.

[Joao Souza] “I mean I can’t believe Samsung(or any great brand) would build a cam which we can’t use its files with video editors.”

Believe it. 99% of customers never edit their video. They just “shot ‘n show”. Camera manufacturers do whatever makes them a profit.

[Joao Souza] “Sony-Handycam-SD-DCR-PJ5 , it says video format = STD MPEG2 – PS”

That’s not even an HD camera and it records standard definition MPEG2 just like your current camera which is horrible for editing because it’s already very low quality.

I don’t know what it’s like in Brazil and if the Samsung F80 is the only decent camera you can afford then you don’t have much of a choice. It may actually work in Vegas, I just didn’t want you to be surprised if it didn’t because most people make the same statement that you just made… i.e., they can’t believe that a camera would produce video that can’t be edited but with HD, not everyone follows the standards.

~jr

http://www.johnrofrano.com
http://www.vasst.com

[Joao Souza]

Thanks for all that info John.

1- The others Sony models prices have a jump from about 400 dollars to……1200-1500 dollars!
That’s too much for a cam to record some youtube videos to have fun, I can afford it but I won’t pay that much for a cam, it’d be like buying the fastest car only to drive around the neighbourhood, well some buy ferraris only to show they have money but never drive them out of their garages LOL

2- I found this guy testing his Samsung F80, one of his replies is about its video file format = “Samsung had timelapse, which I wanted to play with.I think I remember the Samsung has a video file format that is easier to edit too” =

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrU-9CJLrYY

Its definition is SOOOOOOOOOO better than my Sony DCR-SR45, I don’t need more than that just to shoot myself playing my instruments, it’s not for professional use or to make the best quality video ever, it’s just to have fun with my music.If the definition of that youtube test is what I’ll get, I’ll be super happy because of its good price(400 dollars) comparing to that Sony CX190(950 dollars), keep in mind that 950 dollars here is like my house utilities and health plan for 1 year, you can probably get that Sony CX190 in NY for about 200-300 dollars I guess, that would be a great price if it was the same here but dollar is twice value of our money so electronics are not cheap here 😉

We have so much time and so little to do! / Willy Wonka

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