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  • Same old timing issue

    Posted by Jack Fox on February 8, 2009 at 1:03 am

    Okay, so I wasn’t conversant in drop frame, but I think my problem with converting 23.98 non-drop to drop frame is an illusion. That is, if actual play length stays the same,even though the timecode suggests it is longer, what is the harm? Also my current suspicion as to the anomaly is not drop frame, but the difference between 23.976 and 23.98. The difference between 23.98 and 23.976 is the difference I am seeing. Coincidence?

    jmf

    John Fishback replied 17 years, 2 months ago 3 Members · 3 Replies
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  • Shane Ross

    February 8, 2009 at 1:50 am

    [jack fox] “if actual play length stays the same,even though the timecode suggests it is longer, what is the harm?”

    Well, if you are making a show for broadcast, it is a HUGE thing. Because broadcast needs precise timings. If you think your show is 44:30, when in fact it is 44:28, then you are two minutes short. Meaning that you didn’t meet network spec and your show will be rejected.

    [jack fox] “Also my current suspicion as to the anomaly is not drop frame, but the difference between 23.976 and 23.98.”

    23.98 is just a short rounded way of saying 23.976. Just rounding up to lose a number, that’s all.

    Shane

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  • Jack Fox

    February 8, 2009 at 2:51 am

    I think my show is 26:46 and it is, but my timecode (after conversion) suggests it is longer, which it is not. I do understand that 23.98 is short for 23.976, but I’m wondering if some software has rounded up. When I put a timecode track on the media before exporting I get the same timecode that is shown in the FCP timeline after export to quicktime movie, even though the frames and timecode detected on playing is displayed as longer (aproximately 6 frames). The difference between the original (40702) and the export (40708) on a 28:15:22 sequence is the same ratio as that of 23.976 and 23.98.

    jmf

  • John Fishback

    February 13, 2009 at 3:54 pm

    I read a thread recently that said AfterFX will export differently with settings of 23.976 or 23.98. I’ve not tested that myself. I’m pretty sure FCP’s 23.98 is 23.976.

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