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  • Posted by Stig Olsen on September 27, 2011 at 1:35 pm

    Hi,

    I shot a commercial with the Sony F3s S-log. (pro res)
    When I link it through AMA (Avid) it looks like the gamma are correct, more flat like 709.
    When I instead drag the file into after effects, it looks more contrasty – more like RGB.

    Any experience on that?

    Stig

    Stig Olsen replied 14 years, 7 months ago 3 Members · 8 Replies
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  • Brian Charles

    September 27, 2011 at 2:22 pm

    Are you using a colour managed workflow?

    If not colours will not appear correctly in After Effects.

    See:

    https://help.adobe.com/en_US/aftereffects/cs/using/WS14AC4DDE-84D7-4fc9-B79C-897F2C78EA29a.html

  • Walter Soyka

    September 27, 2011 at 2:23 pm

    You can use the Cineon Converter effect to move S-log to linear. The correct parameters are in the Sony S-Log Whitepaper [link].

    Walter Soyka
    Principal & Designer at Keen Live
    Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
    RenderBreak Blog – What I’m thinking when my workstation’s thinking
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  • Stig Olsen

    September 27, 2011 at 2:27 pm

    Hi,

    I did go inte project files and choose some different color spaces, but it doesnt change how I see the picture. Its still as contrasty as before. Any ide?

  • Stig Olsen

    September 27, 2011 at 2:38 pm

    Thanx, I tried the converter but it only gave me a black picture when the parameters were set?

    Cineon Parameter
    10 bit code
    Conversion Type
    Log To Linear
    10Bit Black Point
    90 (REF BLACK)
    Internal Black Point
    0 (MIN CODE)
    10Bit White Point
    636 (REF WHITE)
    Internal White Point
    255 (MAX CODE. 255 for 8bit)
    Gamma
    2.96 (when Monitor gamma is 2.2) (1.345 x A for Monitor gamma A)
    Highlight Rolloff
    120

  • Stig Olsen

    September 27, 2011 at 2:49 pm

    Btw, I have set the output and project profile to 709.
    When I try to interpret the file for assigning profile, the options is greyed out. Why is that happening?

    Thanks for your answers.

    Stig

  • Stig Olsen

    September 27, 2011 at 3:06 pm

    And one more thing.
    Its shot in prores 422 (ycbcr601) if that is important.

    Looks flat (or as it should be I guess) in avid using AMA, but has a very high contrast in After effects.

  • Walter Soyka

    September 27, 2011 at 4:28 pm

    [stig olsen] “When I try to interpret the file for assigning profile, the options is greyed out. Why is that happening?”

    I don’t think you can override embedded profiles.

    However, you could use the Color Profile Converter effect [link]. Maybe linearizing the input profile will help?

    Walter Soyka
    Principal & Designer at Keen Live
    Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
    RenderBreak Blog – What I’m thinking when my workstation’s thinking
    Creative Cow Forum Host: Live & Stage Events

  • Stig Olsen

    September 30, 2011 at 6:08 pm

    Ok,

    Then what you guys are telling me, is that there really dont exist a good enough support of S-log in AE.
    If AE cant read the files correctly, but gives me a high contrast look / RGB-look, this is just not good enough.

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