Routers & D.A.’s Out of Kona-Suggestions?

[Jeremy Garchow]

How about an aja io? You can also use it to feed analog sources to your K2 for upconversion, SD work, whatever. It’ll also serve as a capture card as well.

I use the one in this suite to feed my Kona 2 daily and it works awesomely (if that’s a word).

AJA also makes a series of mini converters that will do just fine for you as well.

[Kevin Wild]

I thought about this, but not sure I need an IO yet. I think a DA will work fine that has 4 outputs…I thnk the IO would only give me 1 more.

Anyone else have thoughts?

KW

[Jeremy Garchow]

Actually you don’t need anything if you take your Kona feed to your Beta, loop the Beta out to your Monitor, loop that out to the Plasma.

You should put a cheap patch bay in so you can feed the signal wherever you want it to go.

If you throw an io in there, you can use that to route some of the component signal to whatever you want for monitoring/dubs.

Just a suggestion.

[David Battistella]

There are a couple of options.

1. An SD/HD Component DA. (expensive and hard to find since the point of digital signals is HD SDI routing).
2. An AJA io (this is what most people choose because it gives you full analog SD monitoring)
3. Convert the Beta to SDI with a AJA mini converters. One for the in and one for the out.

When looping the K-Box output watch out for termination issues when you are trying to view HD on your critial monitor. It will mess a few things up if you are looping to SD only monitors (at least this is what I have noticed when working with 720P varicam material where it creates a wierd ghosting until you pull the Y cable) 1080 is less of a problem.

David

Peace and Love 🙂

[Kevin Wild]

“Actually you don’t need anything if you take your Kona feed to your Beta, loop the Beta out to your Monitor, loop that out to the Plasma.”

Thanks, but the beta component out is already going to the Kona. See? This is my dilemma. I may end up going with a patch bay, but was hoping to keep it very simple with a DA.

Anyone use that Laird product? Seems ideal IF the quality is good.

Thanks!

Kevin

[Jeremy Garchow]

Sorry to keep beating a dead horse, but I doubt that you are going to feed your Kona an input and output at the same time. Get yourself a quick patch bay and your troubles will be resolved.

[David Battistella]

Plus,

Have you noticed that the laird 1400 will require custom cabling for teh component outputs. Factor that into the cost of your router.

Also. Are you running a KONA 2 or and LH, it’s not clear.

David

Peace and Love 🙂

[David Battistella]

Sorry,

The cabling is included. that is a relief because those cables would be expensive.

David

Peace and Love 🙂

[Bob Zelin]

The absolute CHEAPEST way to accomplish all routing is with patch bays. A super hi quality Canare HD rated patchbay (the 242U-DVJAW) is $519 at Markertek, and can handle analog composite, component, SDI and HD-SDI. If you don’t want to solder (for your audio), you can use $50 Behringer PX-3000 audio patch bays to route your audio (all 1/4 TRS). This way, you can send anything anywhere you want, and you will not be stuck with a small Laird router that you will outgrow rapidly if you are successful. And weather you get a router (at any price) or the patch bays, you will STILL need lots of cables, and cables COST A LOT OF MONEY. Even Radio Shack charges lots of money for cables today, and they are total garbage. The cabling to wire up an audio mixer costs more than most audio mixers these days. Welcome to the 21st century.

bob Zelin

[Bob Flood]

Hi

My 2 cents…
I take my componenyt out, loop it to my color monitor, THEN loop to an IO LA, then my VTR (beta sp) I then take my BEta out back to my card. I use the s out and the composite out of the IO to feed dvd burners, vhs machines, and “home” monitors.

THE io la is overkill for breaking out SD feeds, so we are looking at the Hotronic DA-All, its SDI In, and all 3 flavors of analog out Component, composite AND yc. Then i can use my LH Analog Component out to feed my SD/HD Monitor, Use the Hotronic componnet out to feed an SD monitor and our beta, and bring the beta in componennt (we use firewire to capture and play out HD)

You can find video patchbays, routers, and cables on ebay, as there are always compnays liquidating.

we have a device similar to the laird, called a One two punch. we use it to share our beta deck between 2 edit systems, It routes CAV, +4 audio and rs422 we have a 4 x 4 s router as well as a 6 x 4 composite and audio router, we also have some signals normal through a patch bay,
it is extensive, but it gives us lots of flexibility.

hope this helps

Bob Flood
Greer & Associates, Inc.