Rolling titles in PP2 problem

[Steven L. gotz]

Limit the range of colors within 16,16,16 and 235,235,235

Change the speed of the title ever so slightly. Some settings will look better than others.

[Mbelli]

>Limit the range of colors within 16,16,16 and 235,235,235

>Change the speed of the title ever so slightly. Some
settings will look better than others.

I’ve done that, there’s no difference (I normally use DV black at 16, 16, 16 and much lower white values on the fonts when preparing any title over black). I can’t get a clean roll from PP2’s titler at a normal to slow speed. I’ve played with it all afternoon and I just can’t get a good roll!!

I’m actually surprised that I’m the only one with this problem. Can anyone else here test a simple rolling credit with white text over black bg & view it with a critical eye. I think you’ll see what I’m talking about. At this point the roll function in the PP 2’s titler is not usable.

[Mark Weaver]

The biggest issue with title rolls is interlaced video.
The text must move up or down the screen with the correct
velocity (pixels/frame or pixels/field). If an incorrect
speed is used, then flickering or pulsating of the text
happens on interlaced TVs. Unfortunately, you won’t see
this on the computer screen.

The second motion graphics book by Trish Meyer(sp) has a
very good section on this. I haven’t looked at it in a while,
but if I remember correctly the speed must be an even multiple
of the field rate. 2*60, 4*60… etc.. The unfortunate thing
is even the slowest value is really fast on the screen.

My solution has been to use 1*60 but then apply a vertical
blur of 1 or 2 pixels depending on the font used for
the text.

Hope this helps.

Mark

[Aanarav Sareen]

Try this:
Create a rolling title in Premiere Pro 1.5
Import the 1.5 project in 2.0
Compare.

Also, is your preview settings set to Automatic Quality? If so, change that to ‘Best’ quality.

[Mbelli]

I have a dual head video card running two 19″ LCD panels card and a broadcast Sony monitor coming out of OHCI/SONY DSR20 DVCAM DECK. I color correct and evaluate solely based on my Sony monitor, I don’t bother with my LCD Premiere monitors for evaluation.

I don’t have PP 1.5 anymore, I did a clean install to PP 2. I noticed the rolling title problem when I was making a new title roll in PP 2. I had to duplicate a roll from a previous project edited with PP 1.5. As I didn’t have the original project file, only the completed video, I clipped out the PP 1.5 roll and recreated it in PP 2 (using the 1.5 roll as a guide). That’s when I noticed the quality hit in the titler. More ringing/flickering. Same BG, same font, same size, same speed!!!!

Again, this is subjective. Without the comparison I might have not even noticed myself. I’m not saying I get lots of ringing and flickering, but more than the 1.5 titler. At this point, if you ask me, in regards to rolls, I’m not very happy with PP 2. Something has changed!