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Chris Harlan
September 21, 2011 at 4:01 amWow. You guys are a trip. In another thread you seemed perplexed that I mentioned I was trying hard not to laugh at the name. You seem to have no problem. I agree with you; roles is a pretty condescending prosumerish name. But, hey, let’s try to ignore that and see if it does any good.
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Jeremy Garchow
September 21, 2011 at 4:09 amThis same thread, right?
A rose is still a rose by any other name. I think roles are pretty cool, and logical.
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Craig Seeman
September 21, 2011 at 4:20 amRoles can be assigned by a keyboard command.
I found them in the Commands area. They are not assigned initially.
You can create additional Roles than those listed.
In the Timeline index you can turn off specific Roles such as turning off Titles or Turning off music much as one might turn off a Track.
In the Inspector you can edit Roles (create new Roles for example).
There’s also SubRoles (apparently no HeroRoles to keep a theme going in this thread).
I guess you might say the Role is not a PITA. -
Chris Harlan
September 21, 2011 at 5:26 am[Craig Seeman] “In the Timeline index you can turn off specific Roles such as turning off Titles or Turning off music much as one might turn off a Track.
In the Inspector you can edit Roles (create new Roles for example).”Sounds like good news. Apparently, according to Larry Jordan’s column, you can color code them too. This goes a long way to dealing with my complaint about trackless. If I can see all of my SFX because they are orange, as opposed to being on tracks 7-10, that just might do, and help to mitigate the shapelessness of the magnetic timeline.
Do you know if you can select combinations, say music and sfx?
Also Craig–have you brought in multitrack Quicktime files–say 8-16 tracks–and how do the work witch FCP X?
Now that XML is here, I sure hope someone comes up with an .edl translator soon. With the combo of the two, I can see repurchasing FCP X just to mess with, as I could integrate it into a project or two for fun.
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Jeremy Garchow
September 21, 2011 at 5:54 am[Chris Harlan] “Now that XML is here, I sure hope someone comes up with an .edl translator soon. With the combo of the two, I can see repurchasing FCP X just to mess with, as I could integrate it into a project or two for fun.”
Hell hath doth frozen over. The pigeth have taken flight.
Yes roles are color coded. You can select/solo roles and the rest of the timeline clips go grey/colorless. You can also minimze all roles, or max to give you easy visual access. It’s pretty elegant. Yes you can select as little or as many roles as you want.
I have 16 track QTs in FCPX. They work fine, you can choose which tracks go in timeline or not in inspector. Shows up as one clip, unless you break apart.
One step stem export is nice, too. Can’t wait for the snowboarding soccer mom prosumer dslr non pros to use a stem export. Should make for an interesting discussion, like, what’s a stem?
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Erik Lundberg
September 21, 2011 at 6:20 amWhere have you found colour coding of roles? I don’t see it anywhere. I can highlight a role (and it’s subroles) or minimize/expand them with ease, and turn on/off. But I can’t find any options of custom colour coding. Blues and greens are all that I get.
Erik Lundberg
Technical Director, Media Technology, University of Gothenburg, Sweden
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Jeremy Garchow
September 21, 2011 at 6:30 amSorry, not custom coded, but rather follow the code of the timeline. Video blue, audio green, text purple, generators orange, etc. Unless you assign a different role, you get timeline colors, which is still handy and color coded.
Sorry about any unintended confusion.
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Erik Lundberg
September 21, 2011 at 6:35 amAh. Nevertheless, a good step in the right direction. Found a caveat in the manual concerning Custom Roles though:
Important: Create custom roles and subroles with care. Custom roles (and the names of custom roles) cannot be edited or removed from the roles list. However, you can change the role assignments of clips at any time.
Erik Lundberg
Technical Director, Media Technology, University of Gothenburg, Sweden
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Erik Lundberg
September 21, 2011 at 3:05 pmSomething that could be a REAL feature would be an patchable audio mixer where you could assign one or several roles to one channel.
Erik Lundberg
Technical Director, Media Technology, University of Gothenburg, Sweden
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Simon Ubsdell
September 21, 2011 at 3:11 pm[Erik Lundberg] “Something that could be a REAL feature would be an patchable audio mixer where you could assign one or several roles to one channel.”
An even better feature would be to bring back Soundtrack Pro support … and implement OMF/AAF export 😉
But yes, your idea would certainly help.
Simon Ubsdell
Director/Editor/Writer
http://www.tokyo-uk.com
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