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Roles: got ’em to work.
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[Jeremy Garchow] “Effects? No, I do wish there was a similar option for Effects in the Timeline Index.”
No, sorry, misunderstanding here – by Effects I meant my Effects tracks, nothing to do with Effects 😉
[Jeremy Garchow] “you know Veg will be towards the top, Nuts towards the bottom.”
Not good enough – “towards the bottom” and “towards the top” are too vague for my purposes.
I know I’m being pedantic – but that’s what editors are, a lot of them way more pedantic than I am, especially feature film editors 😉 For FCPX to gain any traction at my end of the business, believe me, it will have to satisfy the pedants to the ultimate degree.
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[Jeremy Garchow] “Again, have you tried this yet, or just thought about it?”
Sorry, I forgot to answer this question, but yes, I have tried it – I’ve been working with FCPX from literally day one and I think I do actually know it pretty well by now.
You may not have noticed but I’ve also created a fair few Motion 5 templates (Effects and Transitions)* for it, such is my commitment to seeing how far and how fast it will go 😉
* Not as many as Brendan Gibbons by a million miles or so, but then that man is not human …
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[Craig Seeman] “Stacking with tracks to organize sometimes made editing and screen real-estate difficult to manage. Now it’s easy to highlight key areas of interest and operation without a lot of up/down scrolling.”
I hate vertical scrolling with a passion, and I’m still doing that in FCX. Maybe just not as much. In FCP7 I could make all of my tracks small except for the one I’m working on, and that one I could make HUUGE if I wanted to. Perhaps there’s a way for them to add that ability back to FCX.
Meanwhile, has everyone discovered the minimize/maximize button in the roles index? You can minimize every role except the ones you’re working on.
Perhaps that’s where I’ll do my single clip maximizing.
TRACK EXPAND WORKAROUND: create a role called “max”. Minimize all of your audio roles, and when you want to maximize a single or a group of clips, select them and add them to the “max” role. When you’re done working on them, put them back where they belong.
Roles will help me get the job done, however I feel like after driving faster than I’ve ever driven, it’s taking me 30 minutes to park the car and get out.
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FCX. She tempts me, abuses me, beats me up, makes me feel worthless, then in the end she comes around, helps me get my work done, gives me hope and I can’t stop thinking about her.Mark Morache
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[Mark Morache] “TRACK EXPAND WORKAROUND: create a role called “max”. Minimize all of your audio roles, and when you want to maximize a single or a group of clips, select them and add them to the “max” role. When you’re done working on them, put them back where they belong.”
Yup, that’s sounds like a pretty quick and easy way to get around the unspeakably horrendous problems of having to scroll vertically 😉
Simon Ubsdell
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[Simon Ubsdell] “You may not have noticed but I’ve also created a fair few Motion 5 templates (Effects and Transitions)* for it, such is my commitment to seeing how far and how fast it will go 😉
* Not as many as Brendan Gibbons by a million miles or so, but then that man is not human …”
I have definitely noticed!!! 🙂 That’s why I was wondering if you had tried anything with all the audio talk lately, as I thought you might have more of a focus on video effects.
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[Simon Ubsdell] “Not good enough – “towards the bottom” and “towards the top” are too vague for my purposes.
I know I’m being pedantic – but that’s what editors are, a lot of them way more pedantic than I am, especially feature film editors 😉 For FCPX to gain any traction at my end of the business, believe me, it will have to satisfy the pedants to the ultimate degree.”
I hear that.
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[Craig Seeman] “Maybe I’m seeing it different but I can go to the timeline index and select what I want to find and it’ll highlight and take me to the location. I can select the Role or the specific clip.
“Craig, that’s interesting. I think, when I have a second, I’ll focus a little more on the index working in conjunction with Roles.
I’ve gone ahead and downloaded the new version, and a little later next week, when I have a moment, I’ll play. I know that I prefer tracks–my thinking is very much like David and Simon’s–but that doesn’t mean I can’t use Roles.
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[Chris Harlan] “I’ve gone ahead and downloaded the new version, and a little later next week, when I have a moment, I’ll play.”
Make sure when you play, you toggle the option to show your clip names as Role names in the timeline (it’s non-destructive, you can always toggle back). It is worth the peek.
As a side note, Chris. I thought you weren’t going to give FCPX a shot. Just out of my own curiosity, what happened for you to change your mind?
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[Jeremy Garchow] “As a side note, Chris. I thought you weren’t going to give FCPX a shot. Just out of my own curiosity, what happened for you to change your mind?
“I not quite sure how to respond to that. I haven’t changed my mind at all. I’ve stated many, many times that with some alterations, I might find a use for FCP X. I’ve even started threads about it. My primary objection has always been that there was no physical way to create stems, and no xml/edl support. These are things that made it ineligible to do my job. While the XML version is exotic, some converter tool for it might soon make it useful for me.
Now, I’m not interested in using it as my primary NLE. There are many things I don’t like about it. Those may change over time, they may not, and frankly, at this point, I don’t care if they do or don’t. FCS is dead, though I still use it regularly (and will for at least a year), and, I’m in the process of sliding over to MC. I like lots of windows, on big monitors, and a lot more freeform interaction than FCP X wants to give, and, of course, i/o. I wish that MC were as customizable as FCS, but it has its charms. I also like tracks. They make sense to me, and I see no need for me to not have them. Tracks, alone, are enough reason for me to switch NLEs.
So, FCP X for me? It is now as cheap as a plug-in, and when I think about it on its own instead of a replacement for FCP 7 I can see ways that I might use it. The coming generation of MB Airs, for instance, is supposed to have more compatible gfx cards. I can see FCP X being very useful on one of those; I can easily see making a select reel on the go, for instance. Since I’m in promos, select reels are a huge part of what I do. Quickly breaking a film or TV show down to a palette of its most useable minutes is generally the first step when working on finished shows. With edl support, I can move to my main NLE
in minutes.This isn’t something new for me. I’ve said this a number of times. I haven’t completely decided yet, hence the trial. (I did work with it for a while when it first came out, but got my money back. Of course, then, I was comparing it to FCS.) Ironically, I probably would not be giving X as much of a chance, if I hadn’t been such a devoted user of FCS.
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Cool. Thanks for the response, Chris.
Considering how crazy it’s been around here, I was just curious.
Cheers,
Jeremy
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