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Roles: got ’em to work.
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[greg gilpatrick] “Is there something wrong with the Automatic Duck OMF export tool?”
Yup, there is – it’s called …
PRICE!
Call me right-fisted but, I’m not going to drop an eye-watering and borderline extortionate four hundred and ninety five dollars (more than the cost of FCPX) at this point when there are still features (broadcast monitor support, EDL support) that are not there yet.
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Yes.
One has to wonder about volume over price point at some point. If you could add this for 29$ then I think many people might go for it.
But I wonder how many have sold at the 495 price point.
Strange.
David
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“audio is a craft that is way more complex than video editing”
Really?
The craft services guy told me he thought his job was the most complex one. Man, I am slipping down the ladder fast!
Lance
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Why would an off-line picture editor need to have OMF export anyway? Seems to me that it would be easiest for everyone if they hand off the whole project to the audio pro and audio pro uses their copy of OMF export to export things the way they think best. $500 doesn’t seem like a big expense if you are an audio pro and will use something like that a lot.
When I finish somebody’s project in a system like Smoke, it is usually ideal to have the off-line project to export from and/or refer to.
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[greg gilpatrick] ” $500 doesn’t seem like a big expense if you are an audio pro and will use something like that a lot.”
It’s an expense I’m only going to think of incurring when/if FCPX seems like it will be a workable solution in other areas – it’s still an pretty hefty chunk of cash for a translator so I kind of object on principle even though I know I’m probably going to have to swallow it at some point.
[greg gilpatrick] “Why would an off-line picture editor need to have OMF export anyway?”
Cos that’s the way it’s always worked in the past – except it’s been built in to your NLE whichever one it is. Maybe some audio facilities will be happy to acquire FCPX and Automatic Duck and take care of your export for you – I can’t see it happening without you having to pay for it though.
Simon Ubsdell
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It’s just the idea that one piece of functionality costs almost twice the price of the entire Application.
Wes can charge what he wants and he should charge what it is worth.
David
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[David Battistella] “Wes can charge what he wants and he should charge what it is worth.”
Are you saying that these are the same?
He can of course charge what he wants – but whether it’s “worth” that is a whole other question, I’d have thought.
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[Jeremy Garchow] “[Craig Seeman] “I’m wondering about selecting a role and applying an effect to all the selected roles although maybe Apple has something else in mind.”
You can do this now, no?”
Haven’t tried it.
[Jeremy Garchow] “What’s weird is that roles can’t be deleted at this time. “
I can just imagine the conversation at Apple.
Programer: Well, when we delete the role metadata it’s corrupting the project
Manager: Can you fix it in two days?
Programer: Probably a couple of weeks because there’s underlying project code that also needs to be fixed to get it to work.
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[Craig Seeman] “I can just imagine the conversation at Apple.”
Its funny! I imagined the same internal dialogue as well.
How do you feel about these new features as a whole?
It did make it seem like Apple is still listening, right?
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[Simon Ubsdell] “I absolutely agree that they will help with organization and that’s a good thing.”
I think that is what the nirvana is all about, capability, as in FCPX is now capable of organizing without tracks.
[Simon Ubsdell] “the chances of it all going Pete Tong. “
“it’s all gone pete tong” is a great movie by the way. As far as giving the tools to a picture editor, well, that ship has long sailed.
[Simon Ubsdell] “I think what worries me most of all is that from an audio point of view (accepting that they have other useful functions) Roles are going to be perceived as a “pro” answer to the audio finishing workflow, when in actual fact they may well create more problems than they solve.”
I can’t agree here. Roles is a way to organize a trackless timeline, which then of course allows other features (such as one click audio stem export). It is functional, but it doesn’t mean that it is going to replace a proper audio mix.
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