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ROCKET SCIENCE? It is NOT!
Come on, there are some dumb things in this mighty big world but where is the logic in this…
So I finish a 30 min show and need to archive it. Besides doing a media manage onto an outboard drive to put in the library I also do a ProresHQ of the final vision. All good except…
Why, when 2 hours into the Prores export does it abort with an “out of disk space” and not give me the option to create more space on the drive and then continue from where it left off? It totally junks what is has been doing for the last 2 hours!
If that is the logic behind the way other Mac software is written I can now understand why there IS a future for Micro$oft.
I mean come on? Is it really that hard to write simple intuitive software that caters for all aspects of operation? Sure I should have checked there was enough disk space but couldn’t FCP also do that before spending 2 hours and 8 processors just to trash the lot?
I have now missed a major deadline which may send me into recession; or is it depression, or maybe both. Lets just hope some of these software engineers lost their share investments and have to sell their Ferrari’s and rejoin the real world.
Baz (the opinionated one)
What would I do without the ‘UNDO’ button!!!!
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How is it taking 2 hours to do a 30 minute ProRes export?
Please explain.
Jeremy
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[Jeremy Garchow] “How is it taking 2 hours to do a 30 minute ProRes export? “
My guess is that he is not working with footage that was captured ProRes so the computer has to convert it.
What format video are you editing and what are your timeline settings?
if you are not editing on a ProRes time line then you gain nothing my exporting to ProRes other then larger files.
As for your question, sure it would be nice, but that is not an option on any editing software. When ever exporting anything you should have a ruff guess at the size it will require and make sure you have the required space.
Also it is not a good idea to let your hard drive get to full. For most things leave about 15% free at all times, but With video I have heard its best to leave 50% free.
There are no “technical solutions” to your “artistic problems”.
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[Zane Barker] “My guess is that he is not working with footage that was captured ProRes so the computer has to convert it. “
Well, no kidding.
he mentioned 8 cores and 2 hours. I just want to know what’s going on as that doesn’t seem correct, unless it’s a long GOP nightmare.
Jeremy
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[Jeremy Garchow] “Well, no kidding. “
Obvious to you and me but it seems like it is not that obvious to Baz. I was just trying to say it in a nice way.
There are no “technical solutions” to your “artistic problems”.
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What I am working on is a 26 part doco series all shot on HDV and all the titles etc are all HDCAM. This series is mastered for delivery on HDCAM.
What I am exporting to is an “archive drive”!!! Why would I want to leave 50% free? I am putting 6 programs per 1 Terra sata drive (in a sata dock) and then the drives go into the library, on a shelf stored 2 per ‘umatic tape’ box. Yep thats right, I have a great use for all those old tape boxes and 2 x 3.5″ sata drives fit perfectly side by side. The frightening thing is that the ‘umatic’ tape from the box use to be able to have a max of 1 hour but I am replacing the contents with about 20 hours of HD content. Think of the space being saved in there! – scary eh! But what a good idea I thought of, maybe I should be writing software….
Baz
What would I do without the ‘UNDO’ button!!!!
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until you try to connect the harddrive in a couple of years and it’ll not startup…
I wish I had your confidence 🙂
Carsten
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[Baz Leffler] “Why would I want to leave 50% free?”
[Carsten Orlt] “until you try to connect the harddrive in a couple of years and it’ll not startup”
Exactly. the more full a hard drive is the higher the risk of corruption. It may corrupt the Disk partition causing it not to mount or it may corrupt the files themselves.
For editing definitely leave 50% free. For archiving you should be ok of you leave 25% free.
Also it is a MUST to keep the drives in anti static bags. And if the files are supper important then you should have it on 2 archive drives.
There are no “technical solutions” to your “artistic problems”.
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I know that 1920×1080 29.97 ProRes files are going to take about 62GB/hr (93GB/hr for HQ). Seems like a look before hand would solve the problem. I would never fill any drive more than 90% no matter what it is going to be used for.
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Why, when 2 hours into the Prores export does it abort with an “out of disk space” and not give me the option to create more space on the drive and then continue from where it left off?
Until this is implemented, you may find it beneficial to render/export to an image sequence. Image sequences allow you to easily pick up where a program failed. They are also far easier to manage if/when you suffer file corruption problems.
JPEG 100% is great for broadcast. We’ve also delivered it for film-out on commercials (crazy!).
Stu.
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[Baz Leffler] “What I am working on is a 26 part doco series all shot on HDV “
OK..
I am going to take a stab too,
First.
for any project I do a complete render pass and generate a self contained QT before I lay to tape- it solves all of that render and wait stuff. ESPECIALLY from any long GOP content.Second.
Out of disk error…. could be 2 things
a) your render volume is full and the task cannot be completed.OR most likely
[Baz Leffler] “Besides doing a media manage onto an outboard drive to put in the library “Media Mangler for moving the content to archive? IMHO this is your mistake.
MM methodology of understanding how much space it needs is lacking at best.
Especially if you are trying to archive any render files (DONT ARCHIVE RENDER FILES). Remember too that if you used any subclips- the entire clip would be archived unless you specifically instruct the software to exclude anything not in the project.gary adcock
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