rewrapped XAVC not viewable

[Chad Greene]

I am sorry Dave. I had the codec only in the title of this post. But here is more detail.

Final Cut Pro X sees the original .mxf file as “XAVC Intra 422/10 Class 300”
and the rewrapped .mov file as “XAVC 4K 24p”

Chad Greene : Mahoney Media : Minneapolis, Minnesota : 2×2.66 GHz 6-Core Intel Xeon, 12GB Ram, OS 10.11 FCPX, Kona-LHi

[Chad Greene]

It is strange that the codec works in X but not in Pr.

I brought the same file in to X, Resolve and Premiere. X and Resolve can see and play the file. Premiere can not. It doesn’t sound like an uninstalled codec. What am I missing?

Chad Greene : Mahoney Media : Minneapolis, Minnesota : 2×2.66 GHz 6-Core Intel Xeon, 12GB Ram, OS 10.11 FCPX, Kona-LHi

[Greg Janza]

can you upload a small .mxf clip?

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[Chad Greene]

Greg here is a 3 second .mxf file straight off the camera and that same shot rewrapped as a .mov file.
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1LABBKHjUa5Eesy0FsHHXkTIeP_JrWkbD?usp=sharing

Here is what I see when I import into Pr.

[Greg Janza]

I imported your files and I get the same results but isn’t it irrelevant since the original files work just fine in Premiere.

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i7-5820k CPU
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Blackmagic Decklink 4k Mini Monitor
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Media: Samsung SSD 960 PRO PCIe NVMe M.2 2280
Media: OWC Thunderbay 4 x 2 Raid 0 mirrored with FreeFileSync

[Tero Ahlfors]

[Chad Greene] “Premiere can not. It doesn’t sound like an uninstalled codec. What am I missing?”

The file is using an Apple specific pro codec that is not found in Premiere. The latest Premiere only has support for their own encoder/decoder for Quicktime and it will not read any installed external codecs.

Is there a reason you can’t use the camera originals in Premiere?

[John Pale]

Premiere Pro now uses its own internal engine to decode Quicktime files. There are fewer codecs supported than before. Mostly this affects older codecs, that are seldom used, but in this instance its biting you in the butt. Use the original MXF files, if you can.

[Chad Greene]

[John Pale] “There are fewer codecs supported than before. “

Hmm I wonder if there is a workaround. For the last 5 years we have been filming for a documentary series, then importing to FCPX (rewrapping the media). Now we are talking about letting new editors rough cut in Premiere (where they are more comfortable), but currently they can’t see our media and it would take a huge effort to rewrap back to .mxf or transcode to something else.

If I can get this Apple flavored codec to work with Premiere, then our editors can choose what tool they want.

[Tero Ahlfors]

You could try this: https://www.drastic.tv/productsmenu-56/mediareactorlist/mediareactor-lite-adobe

[Chad Greene]

That looks good except it is Windows only. We are all Mac.

Chad Greene : Mahoney Media : Minneapolis, Minnesota : 2×2.66 GHz 6-Core Intel Xeon, 12GB Ram, OS 10.11 FCPX, Kona-LHi