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  • Reverse match frame?

    Posted by John Steventon on August 28, 2006 at 4:19 pm

    Hey folks. How is everyone?

    I’m looking for a similar function to Avid’s Reverse Match Frame in FCP. I’ve got an hour long edit which I’m onlining on FCP and a couple of small shots are offline – I’d like to find out where in the sequence they are before I continue capturing (as it’s multi-format, and it’s easier to capture all the HDCAM first, then DigiBeta, then HDV etc etc.) So yeah, i could wait until the very end of the capture process, and look through the timeline for the clips marked as offline, but I’d really like to find out now.

    Thinking about it, I’ve only got the HDCam deck on hire, luckily for enough time that I can wait until the end this time round, but you never knwo when I might need to do a reverse match frame.

    For anyone lost on what I mean, it’s when I open a clip from the browser, press something, and it shows me where in the sequence that clip (or part of clip wheree the time-indicator) is. I know SHIFT/F match frames FROM the sequence, but what’s its reverse counterpart?

    Thanks in advance.

    J

    John
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    Mike Stanley replied 15 years, 3 months ago 5 Members · 7 Replies
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  • John Pale

    August 28, 2006 at 4:45 pm

    No reverse match frame…go to the application menu and select “Provide Feedback” to make a feature request.

    As a workaround, you can select your entire timeline and drag it to a bin, which will give you clips for everything in the timeline…similar to an Avid decompose. You can then use your bin headings to search for specifc codecs.

  • Jeremy Garchow

    August 28, 2006 at 5:33 pm

    Use the find feature. Select your timeline and hit apple-f. Type in a common search term (such as the clip name) and hit find all. This will highlight every instance of that clip in the timeline.

    Not exactly what you are looking for, but might get you close.

    Jeremy

  • Michael Gissing

    August 29, 2006 at 1:01 am

    John, I am mostly reconforming and deal with mixed formats so I know the problem. I like editors to log the reel number as the first part of any clip description. I then batch capture Digi beta reels, HDV etc based on the reel numbers by selecting those clips in the bin.

    Alternatively, just batch capture the whole sequence and it will tell you which reels it needs. Skip to the reels in the format you are patched for. Repatch and skip to the HDV reels etc. I don’t care where in the sequence they are. The clips in the bin will show what is offline. Having the reel name in the clip description helps to target. A further refinement is to use reel numbering systems that denote format. ie all digi beta tapes are 100 – 199, DV 200 – 299, HDV 300 – 399 etc

  • John Steventon

    August 29, 2006 at 8:48 am

    Hey,

    Thanks to everyone for their advice, and I’ll try each of them in turn. The reason I need to find the offline item in the sequence is that it’s often a timecode break or pre-roll error that causes it not to capture, so though I can find out the TC information from the offline clip in the browser, I’ve no idea where to put it in the sequence.

    Well, ‘no idea’ is a bit strong, but as out of 1616 clips, 40 of them need captured manually, it’s pain in the backside trying to find the clip in the sequence – and unfortunately the programme is so similar that even if I did know the programme well, it’d still be hard to know where the clip came from. I’m sure names like ‘oversea aerials’ doesn’t help matters much to let me know where they should go in the sequence, but I don’t really think it’s up to the offline guys to start naming clips ‘oversea aerlals to go in the part towards the end of the programme when he talks to her about that.’

    But, I’ll do a feature request, and hopefully something will come of it.

    Thanks again.

    J

    John
    Success is merely a failiure to imagine more…

    G5 2.7Ghz, 4.5Gb ram, Blackmagic Decklink/multibridge, 5.6Tb Infortrend storage, FCP Studio 5.02, Makie MCU control, Yahama 5.1 surround, JVC DTV multi-format monitor, 2x23inch Apple monitors – and a partirdge on a pear tree.

  • John Pale

    August 29, 2006 at 4:19 pm

    You could also color code the formats of the source clips using labels.

  • John Steventon

    August 31, 2006 at 10:46 am

    You know what – I’m a complete idiot.

    Reverse match frame is just opening the clip in the viewer, and hitting F – just like trying to find the flip from the timeline.

    I’m really sorry for the stupid post, obviously a bit of a blonde moment due to the amount of work I’ve got on. Sorry for wasting everybody’s time.

    John

    John
    Success is merely a failiure to imagine more…

    G5 2.7Ghz, 4.5Gb ram, Blackmagic Decklink/multibridge, 5.6Tb Infortrend storage, FCP Studio 5.02, Makie MCU control, Yahama 5.1 surround, JVC DTV multi-format monitor, 2x23inch Apple monitors – and a partirdge on a pear tree.

  • Mike Stanley

    January 28, 2011 at 5:31 pm

    If you click on ‘show match frame’ (lower left circle button) in the viewer, it should take you to your clip in the timeline. This is the closest I’ve found to Avid’s reverse match frame.

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