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Resolve 15.2
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[Andrew Kimery] “I’ve been sold on the potential of Resolve for years, I’m just musing on when we’ll stop saying Resolve is almost there and we’ll start saying it’s time to ditch X, MC, and/or PPro in favor of Resolve.”
Surely the only argument for ‘almost there’ is one of the four pages in Resolve. If you only judge the software by the edit page then you might think Resolve is playing catchup. Well of course it is. Basic edit functionality with a text generator is less than three years old. Performance was slow. It was a basic editor attached to a mature grade tool. Since then development of just the edit functionality has been faster than any NLE. At the same time they have dropped in Farilight and Fusion. Sure work in progress but when we talk about catchup in audio, compositing, titles & VFX almost everyone else is now playing catchup. No NLE is close to Resolve for grading so my perspective is Resolve is getting ahead of all in terms of an integrated collaborative tool.
I get that editors here are fixating on the one page where Resolve lags but given where they have come from and the pace of development, it’s hardly fair to think that we have been waiting for Resolve to finally catchup when it is arguable ahead in all but a few edit functions. I was joking the other day that it has been a month since the last significant upgrade to Resolve and bang they drop this latest one.
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[Oliver Peters] “I think titling is the weak spot in Resolve right now.”
Only if you don’t embrace the Fusion page. I’m guilty of that but I have watched a few tutorials recently and there are some cheap templates to buy online from enthusiastic online trainers that show the power of Fusion. I have been overcoming the previous title limitations with Boris CC but Fusion in Resolve as it now stands is an immensely powerful title tool in the same way the grade page is. Just need to break the ice with a node based compositor like we all did with node based grading years ago.
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The Mac App Store versions of 15.2 are now also available.
– Oliver
Oliver Peters – oliverpeters.com
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Just finished my first edit in Resolve, very impressed for the most part, really responsive across all of the interface and the timeline is also very quick. Had a few crashes and the so called “live save” which is meant to save everything you do doesn’t seem to work well.
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[Oliver Peters] “The Mac App Store versions of 15.2 are now also available.
“Do. Not. Get. The. App. Store. Version. It has serious Apple sandboxing issues and limitations. The dongle/activation code version has the same price and doesn’t have the limitations. One could also buy the Fusion dongle. You can run both standalone Fusion and Resolve with that.
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[Tero Ahlfors] “Do. Not. Get. The. App. Store. Version. It has serious Apple sandboxing issues and limitations. “
I beg to differ. The main limitation seems to be shared projects with multiple editors. Otherwise it works fine. I’m running Resolve Studio on 9 workstations connected via a NAS and have no issues with it. To move a project from one machine to another, we simply bounce over a project file, since each is maintaining their own local Resolve database. Plus, for individuals, depending on your Apple account type, you can run multiple installs on a single purchase (personal accounts), within Apple’s guidelines.
– Oliver
Oliver Peters – oliverpeters.com
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Is it best to uninstall the previous version?
Scott Witthaus
Visual Storyteller – FCPX, Premiere
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Managing Partner, Low Country Creative LLC
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[Oliver Peters] “But… It’s certainly plenty fine for most jobs, especially corporate videos and commercials. Heck – it’s pretty much on par with FCP “legacy” and probably FCPX. I mean come on – people were doing challenging stuff in the original FCPX layout and that left a LOT to be desired.”
It’s not that you *can’t* do it in Resolve, its why choose Resolve today over X, PPro or MC? Especially if you are already an X, PPro or MC user? People gravitated to FCP Legend because it was good enough and waaaaaaaaaaaaay cheaper than an MC license. People gravitated to X, PPro and Avid because Apple canned Legend and created a hole in the market. If Resolve 15.2 was released in 2011 I think it would’ve gained a lot of traction, but that landscape is long gone. Heck, even if it was released in 2008 (when it was mainly a two way race between FCP and MC) I think Resolve could’ve become a legit third option. But now we already have three entrenched NLEs and being just as good as them isn’t going to be good enough.
Going the ‘super-app’ route sets Resolve apart, but in reality how viable is a super app? More on that below.
[Michael Gissing] “Sure work in progress but when we talk about catchup in audio, compositing, titles & VFX almost everyone else is now playing catchup.”
Are you sure that’s a race very many people really care about though? Do rerecording mixers care about Fusion? Do colorists care about Fairlight? How many generalists are willing to learn Resolve-the-NLE, Fairlight, Fusion and Resolve-the-Grader just so they can edit a video and do some basic sound mixing, basic GFX/text and basic color grading?
As a package Resolve looks impressive AF, but outside of a full service post house that decides to become a Resolve-only shop I’m having trouble seeing where it can gain significant traction in the marketplace because it’s greatest assets, collaboration and being four-apps-in-one, depends on specialists across four disciplines all deciding to make Resolve their weapon of choice. So, yeah, as an editor I’m mainly looking at Resolve as an NLE because everything else is secondary. If, for whatever reason, I don’t think Resolve is up to snuff as an NLE having Fairlight and Fusion isn’t going to change my mind.
There is also the trend with NLEs to put what I call ‘good enough for editors’ tools into the NLE while also providing ways to send the edit to other speciality apps if need be. Adobe adding the Lumetri, Essential Sound, and Essential GFX panels is a recent, and very obvious, example of this. As odd as it may sound, I think Resolve needs to add an ‘easy mode’ for audio, grading and GFX capabilities to Resolve to lower the barrier to entry a bit.
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[Andrew Kimery] “There is also the trend with NLEs to put what I call ‘good enough for editors’ tools into the NLE while also providing ways to send the edit to other speciality apps if need be”
The world is rapidly moving to do it all so the next gen really are generalists. They get across all four tabs. But even for those that don’t I have a group who recently asked me to coach them about making podcasts. When they asked about editing the sound, it was hard not to go past Fairlight in the free version. They used it and loved it. There really isn’t a better free audio editor. Next thing they start thinking about Vlogging and want some pointers about editing. Same with a stills person who is now producing stop motion. She saw me edit, grade & sound post her recent animation and was blown away. Once she saw the grade tools, she asked if she might use Resolve to replace photoshop.
So while I get the concerns about old school editors not wanting to drill into the grade, VFX and sound post, even many of them are switching. Last night I was booked to do a day training a local production company in Resolve as they are ditching Adobe CC. All their editorial team also shoot and they are a one stop that has to deliver everything from cinema commercials to web. The future as well as the present seems to be demanding generalists and so a brilliant NLE with so so grade & mix tools is not going to cut it. Once they go through the realisation that they have to move to Resolve anyway, they will do what this company is doing and say, lets just stay in Resolve and that’s why rare beast like me that cross the grade, mix, edit, finish divide are going to be busy training the new breed. It happened a few months back at a local media college and inquiries are coming in.
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[Scott Witthaus]”Is it best to uninstall the previous version?”
I never have. Sometime they advise backing up the database in case the conversion of the DB corrupts. Again that hasn’t happened to me over the past four years but it isn’t hard to do and a good way to backup all your projects at once so I do it regularly anyway in case of a drive crash.
Otherwise install over the top. I presume Mac is the same as Win & Linux but if you search the Blackmagic Resolve forum that question may be more specifically answered
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