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Resolve 15.2
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[Andrew Kimery] “Things like dupe detection, active window highlighting, sub-frame editing of audio transitions, faster timeline redrawing, entering TC w/o having to use “;” or “:”… are mainly quality of life improvements that all major NLEs eventually pickup. “
Do they all pick them up though? I know of one NLE that still doesn’t have dupe detection, and it’s debated a lot in this forum. LOL
Seriously though, you’re correct – a lot of what Blackmagic is adding are quality of life improvements. It’s the pace that they’re implementing them that I find incredible, and shows that they’re actively listening to users. Avid just now got a live timeline and its color corrector isn’t going to be updated until the end of the year. FCPX still doesn’t have an audio mixer whereas Davinci got Fairlight. For a company that basically started building their NLE from scratch a few years ago they’re making huge strides. I think it’s very exciting. And hopefully it’s keeping the three big As on their toes and motivating them to compete.
[Andrew Kimery] “Resolve still seems to be the backup QB of NLEs; it looks great on paper, everyone crows about its potential, but it can’t manage to get meaningful playing time over starters like X, MC and PPro.”
Agree 100%. It’s going to be hard for them to pull users away from X, MC, or PPRo. But kids just getting into editing? I think they have a huge opportunity there, especially for the low low price of free. And if you can get them on Resolve early, they may be able to slowly push the industry toward it. Or if one big player adopts it and makes it work it will start to turn heads (like FCP did back in the day).
I’ve cut a few things in Resolve to test it out (usually after every big release), and it’s not quite there yet. But every big release I go back and try it again, because I want it to get there. Maybe one day!
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Michael Hancock
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With my Canon XF400 I now have the option to record in XF-AVC at 4k 160 Mbs in addition to the existing MP4 4K at 150 Mps option. I know AVC files carry more meta data, but is there any other advantage? FCPX seems to work fine with either one.
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[Oliver Peters] “That’s development pace squared.”
At what point, from an NLE perspective, would you consider Resolve to be a ‘mature’ product and once it hits that point do you think their pace of development will be able to continue at the same rate?
[Michael Hancock] “I’ve cut a few things in Resolve to test it out (usually after every big release), and it’s not quite there yet. But every big release I go back and try it again, because I want it to get there. Maybe one day!”
Two editors at NAB:
“Did you see all the features they added to Resolve?!?”
“I know, isn’t it awesome?”
“Yeah, I wish Avid, Apple and Adobe would crank out new features that fast.”
“Me too.”
“So, are you going to start cutting in Resolve?”
“lol, no.”
“Me neither.”That’s always been my big hangup with the hype around Resolve, everyone (including me) coos over it every time a new version comes out, but every time a new version comes out it’s always ‘one version away’ from really being able to contend with X, MC and PPro. If Resolve can’t displace any of its competitors in a meaningful way does its pace of development really matter?
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[Andrew Kimery] “If Resolve can’t displace any of its competitors in a meaningful way does its pace of development really matter?
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Well FCPX hasn’t displaced any competitors in a meaningful way either!
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[Andrew Kimery] “That’s always been my big hangup with the hype…”
There are several openings for Resolve.
1. The people who want the FCP7/PremierePro track-based, modern NLE, but without subscription.
2. The finishing folks who want a DS or Smoke/Flame replacement and don’t find Symphony adequate.
3. The newer facilities looking for a modern all-in-one, start-to-finish solution.
4. Young editors or those working in certain sectors, where NLE choice isn’t determined by project interchange with other NLEs.Right now in LA and other markets working on entertainment shows, where facilities are on Avid, the norm is for an offline-online workflow. Still. This will be the first place where Resolve has the biggest chunk of the “pro” market to gain. Simply because Resolve is the preferred color corrector. Rather than roundtrip, move in one direction – from Avid to Resolve. Then master.
Of course, in order for Resolve to because a dominant *creative* first choice NLE, there has to be a critical mass of enthusiastic editors at a high enough level to influence the market. That’s a wild card and will be for a while.
– Oliver
Oliver Peters – oliverpeters.com
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[Steve Connor] “Well FCPX hasn’t displaced any competitors in a meaningful way either!”
I think X has meaningfully displaced MC, PPro and/or PPro in places where people have to edit as part of their job, but their job isn’t editing for 40-50hrs a week (which is probably the broadest market for NLEs with the proliferation of video creation). It also seems to be more popular in the EU and SA markets than in NA.
[Oliver Peters] “There are several openings for Resolve.
1. The people who want the FCP7/PremierePro track-based, modern NLE, but without subscription.
2. The finishing folks who want a DS or Smoke/Flame replacement and don’t find Symphony adequate.
3. The newer facilities looking for a modern all-in-one, start-to-finish solution.
4. Young editors or those working in certain sectors, where NLE choice isn’t determined by project interchange with other NLEs.
“Yes, the backup QB who’ll be amazing once he gets in the game… but no one is ready to actually put him in the game yet outside of garbage time. ????
I’ve been sold on the potential of Resolve for years, I’m just musing on when we’ll stop saying Resolve is almost there and we’ll start saying it’s time to ditch X, MC, and/or PPro in favor of Resolve.
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Resolve is already making its foot print in hollywood. Check this out:
Starting on 16:52
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WM1iokfJRA&index=54&list=PL4HX4gJL8ZV0GG4ZytgnOPkNxoEW0vCOC&t=0s
Ric
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[Andrew Kimery] “I’ve been sold on the potential of Resolve for years, I’m just musing on when we’ll stop saying Resolve is almost there and we’ll start saying it’s time to ditch X, MC, and/or PPro in favor of Resolve.”
No one is stopping you ☺
– Oliver
Oliver Peters – oliverpeters.com
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[Ricardo Marty] “Resolve is already making its foot print in hollywood. Check this out:
Starting on 16:52”
For coloring/finishing Resolve has been in Hollywood for a long time. For offline/creative editing though… not so much.
[Oliver Peters] “No one is stopping you ☺”
People who use it way more than I do say it’s still not ready yet, and no one that I know of in my neck of the woods will pay me to use it, so my incentive to choose learning Resolve (as an NLE) is currently incredibly low. There’s only so much time in a day. 😉
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[Andrew Kimery] “People who use it way more than I do say it’s still not ready yet, and no one that I know of in my neck of the woods will pay me to use it, so my incentive to choose learning Resolve (as an NLE) is currently incredibly low. “
Agreed about the incentive issue. But… It’s certainly plenty fine for most jobs, especially corporate videos and commercials. Heck – it’s pretty much on par with FCP “legacy” and probably FCPX. I mean come on – people were doing challenging stuff in the original FCPX layout and that left a LOT to be desired. I think titling is the weak spot in Resolve right now. Also the various modules cause a bit of a challenge. Mainly when to do what in which module. Where is audio best handled? Do you do effects in the edit page, color page, or Fusion? That sort of thing.
– Oliver
Oliver Peters – oliverpeters.com
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