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Resolve 11 What is your plan?
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[Jeff Markgraf] “I think Jeremy called the multiple users on one timeline scenario a nightmare,”
I prefer the term zany, but … nightmare is cool!
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Shawn, my question isn’t about one-man-band vs collaboration. I come from network promo, which is about as segmented a workflow as you can find. I’m a big proponent of letting each specialty perform his particular magic. My issue is with describing this process as multiple users working on the same timeline at the same time.
No such system exists, as far as I know. Avid, the purported gold standard of collaborative workflow, doesn’t do this. The descriptions of Resolve 11 being put out there seem to imply that it is possible. And I’ve seen this mythical process discussed several times on this board.
So, to those in the know, are we talking about multiple users on the same open timeline? Or multiple users working simultaneously within a given project, but on separate copies of a common timeline? And, if such a thing were possible, would it be a good idea?
Jeff M.
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[Jeff Markgraf] “So, to those in the know, are we talking about multiple users on the same open timeline? Or multiple users working simultaneously within a given project, but on separate copies of a common timeline? And, if such a thing were possible, would it be a good idea?”
Watch the “What’s New” video on the page below – particularly around 4:51 mark for working on the same timeline. It appears to actually be multiple people on the same timeline. It barely touches on it, but it’s there.
https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/products/davinciresolve
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Michael Hancock
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[Oliver Peters] “It will be interesting to see how sharing actually works. This requires an appropriate server set-up. “
FWIW, at the Supermeet they said you can use one of the machines you’re working on to provide that function. No server required.
Mitch Ives
Insight Productions Corp.“Criticism may not be agreeable, but it is necessary. It fulfills the same function as pain in the human body. It calls attention to an unhealthy state of things.” – Winston Churchill
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[Jeff Markgraf] “To be clear, are we talking about multiple editors/colorists/effects people touching the same -actual- timeline? Or are we talking about multiple people starting with the same instance of a timeline pulled from an open (but locked to all except the owner) bin and doing their thing, as is done with Avid on an ISIS? I keep seeing Avid referred to as allowing multiple people on one timeline, and that is most certainly NOT the case.
I think Jeremy called the multiple users on one timeline scenario a nightmare, and I would have to agree. Or am I missing something really big here?”
The way it’s been explained is that you have a single editor. The editor is the focal point. From there you can have as many colorists as you want. You can also have multiple people ingesting clips at the same time. The editor is at the small end of the funnel.
As more footage is added, the editor can add it. As the colorists update the clips, they appear red on the editors timeline to indicate that they’ve been graded. It’s up to the editor to decide whether to accept the grade or not.
I’m sure others can explain it better…
Mitch Ives
Insight Productions Corp.“Criticism may not be agreeable, but it is necessary. It fulfills the same function as pain in the human body. It calls attention to an unhealthy state of things.” – Winston Churchill
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Interesting. Sounds like a slightly souped-up version of what Avid does now. Notification and accept/reject makes a lot of sense.
Back to dead horse beating… I’ve never understood why no one has come up with an equivalent to Avid’s Unity/Isis workflow. Bin locking is such a simple and effective idea. Has Avid copyrighted this? Kinda like Avid’s trim functionality. Is it patented? Is that why other editors don’t do it? Or is there some other reason Avid has this functionality all to itself?
As a big fan of FCPX, I’d kill to see some of these features implemented.
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[Jeff Markgraf] “Back to dead horse beating… I’ve never understood why no one has come up with an equivalent to Avid’s Unity/Isis workflow. Bin locking is such a simple and effective idea.”
I’ve been wondering that for a long time. Avid’s project and bin structure has many advantages to how other NLEs handle projects that, like you, I’m surprised no one else has tried that approach.
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I’m a bit confused. Several of you have said Resolve 11 includes editing features similar to the magnetic timeline behavior in FCP X. I don’t see that and it’s certainly not shown in the demos here:
https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/products/davinciresolve
All that I see is behavior that’s exactly like FCP 7 and/or Media Composer. Am I missing something?
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[Oliver Peters] “Am I missing something?”
Rose Colored Glasses. 😉
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Looks like a FCP 7 and Avid MC timeline to me. There are no nested sequences, at least that I am aware of, but does allow for the use of compound clips. That is the only type of FCP X feature that I am aware of. This is going to be an exciting release!
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