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  • Resolution/quality loss using After effect with photoshop and final cut pro.

    Posted by Laure Carnet on January 25, 2013 at 3:00 pm

    Hello there,

    I shall explain my problem.

    I am working with three different programs. Final cut 7, photoshop, and after effects.
    I have taken a psd still from final cut to work in photoshop. I create a still from the final cut pro sequence using ‘export- Using quick time conversion’.
    In photoshop I have layered a project to work in after effects to make an animation.
    The animation is then exported back from after effects into final cut.
    I work with PAL.

    When i export the project from after effect back into final cut pro, i lose quality/ resolution. I export using ‘pre-render’ then ‘best setting’ and ‘quick time’ in the output module’. The video codec i chose is ‘animation’.
    Where do i go wrong?

    Many thanks

    Fernando Petaco replied 13 years, 6 months ago 5 Members · 11 Replies
  • 11 Replies
  • Vishesh Arora

    January 26, 2013 at 7:13 pm

    Laure

    Use PNG Codec instead of Animation which is Lossless.

    Vishesh Arora
    3D and Motion Graphics Artist
    Films Rajendra

    Blog:
    https://digieffects.wordpress.com

    2011 3D Demo Reel:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHPgIJU_BR8

  • Walter Soyka

    January 27, 2013 at 6:40 am

    [Vishesh Arora] “Use PNG Codec instead of Animation which is Lossless. “

    Animation (at 100%) is lossless, too.

    [Laure Carnet] “I have taken a psd still from final cut to work in photoshop. I create a still from the final cut pro sequence using ‘export- Using quick time conversion’. In photoshop I have layered a project to work in after effects to make an animation. The animation is then exported back from after effects into final cut.”

    Are you working with standard-definition PAL video? Have you rendered with fields? If so, have you rendered with the correct field order? PAL is upper-field first for every codec except PAL DV, which is lower-field first.

    Walter Soyka
    Principal & Designer at Keen Live
    Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
    RenderBreak Blog – What I’m thinking when my workstation’s thinking
    Creative Cow Forum Host: Live & Stage Events

  • Chris Wright

    January 27, 2013 at 6:53 am

    if you’re working with sky gradients, most all 444 video codecs are only 8bit. You’d need a psd or tiff trillions sequence to fully protect trips through software.

  • Walter Soyka

    January 27, 2013 at 7:30 am

    [Chris Wright] “if you’re working with sky gradients, most all 444 video codecs are only 8bit. You’d need a psd or tiff trillions sequence to fully protect trips through software.”

    Good point.

    But image sequences are messy with FCP. If you’re round-tripping 10b sources with FCP, I’d recommend one of the flavors of ProRes, with Ae rendering Trillions of Colors.

    Walter Soyka
    Principal & Designer at Keen Live
    Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
    RenderBreak Blog – What I’m thinking when my workstation’s thinking
    Creative Cow Forum Host: Live & Stage Events

  • Vishesh Arora

    January 27, 2013 at 9:44 am

    Walter
    Animation (at 100%) is lossless, too.

    Thanks for the info. I was not aware of that.

    Vishesh Arora
    3D and Motion Graphics Artist
    Films Rajendra

    Blog:
    https://digieffects.wordpress.com

    2011 3D Demo Reel:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHPgIJU_BR8

  • Laure Carnet

    January 28, 2013 at 10:27 am

    Hello Chris,
    Thank you very much for your time.
    I have created a 16bit psd file on photoshop that got exported using trillion from After effect after creating the animation as you advised and the quality loss is still happening..
    Best
    laure

  • Laure Carnet

    January 28, 2013 at 12:22 pm

    Hello Walter,

    Thank you very much for your time.
    Yes, i am working with standard pal and i am rendering using quick time 25 frames.

    I have rendered using ProRes, with Ae rendering Trillions of Colors as you advised but the loss of resolution is still happening.. To be able to render in trillions of colors i had to rework the initial image as psd file at 16 bit on photoshop.

    Best
    laure

  • Laure Carnet

    January 28, 2013 at 6:56 pm

    Hello Chris,

    Sorry if there is cross posting. i think i did not send the previous message properly.

    Thank you very much for your reply.
    I have created a 16bit psd file on photoshop that i then exported from After effect using trillion as you advised and the quality loss is still happening.
    So i must do something wrong.
    Best
    laure

  • Chris Wright

    January 30, 2013 at 12:18 pm

    are you using any 8 bit effects and is the interpretation interlaced upper/lower field or separate non or preserve best edges. Is color management set to a low gamut? try simple importing and exporting an unchanged image and roundtrip it. Work out from there.

  • Laure Carnet

    February 12, 2013 at 8:50 pm

    Hello Chris,
    Sorry for such late reply but i was working abroad without an internet connection.
    Thank you very much for your piece of advice. Will try it out
    Best
    laure

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