replacing H264 media with ProRes in ProRes sequence – render bars won’t go away.

[Shane Ross]

Make a new sequence. Cut in one of the ProRes LT clips into that sequence. Click YES to the “do you want settings to match?” That way you are sure the settings match.

Shane

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[Michael Gissing]

Have you checked in your motion tab to see if there is an distort values or resizing? Try highlighting all and remove attributes – Motion, distort etc

[Edwin Janzen]

Thanks Shane. I tried that now. The Sequence Settings match, and so that is why I’m confused.

Let me repeat,
When I reveal the sequence clips in finder and then drop them back into Pro Res LT sequence it shows no rendering needed.

I think that is strange.

Any other thoughts?

Edwin

[Edwin Janzen]

[Michael Gissing] “Have you checked in your motion tab to see if there is an distort values or resizing? Try highlighting all and remove attributes – Motion, distort etc”

Hi Michael,

The attributes window has all the attributes greyed out. My scale and distortion values are at 100 and 0 respectively and the video looks right and the pixel aspect ratio is square.

Furthermore, when I reveal the unrendered clip in finder and then drag that clip back into the sequence which shows no red render bar, I checked the motion values and they are identical.

Any other clues?

Thanks for your help.
Edwin

[Bret Williams]

Something is off. A distort attribute probably. Have you checked that distort is at zero for all the clips? You understand reconnecting the clips doesn’t reset any attributes for the clips. So if the original clips were 1440×1080 (like HDV) and you reconnected them to 1920×1080 square clips, the distort settings wouldn’t change.

Here’s what I’ve found, sometimes the remove attributes isn’t available until you manually change something. So pick one clip. Change the distort to something, then change it back to zero. Highlight the clip and copy. Then highlight all the other clips and paste attributes>distort. Hopefully that does the trick.

[Michael Gissing]

Did you check speed? There must be a tiny change somewhere for the render to come up

[Edwin Janzen]

[Bret Williams] ” So if the original clips were 1440×1080 (like HDV) and you reconnected them to 1920×1080 square clips, the distort settings wouldn’t change.”

Thanks for you suggestion. Unfortunately, this did not do the trick. The original clips are identical with the clips with which I am replacing them but for their codec. The original and new media are both 1920×1080, square pixel, 23.98. Only the original is H2.64 and the new media is Apple Pro Res LT.

I even made the clips offline first then reconnected them to the new media. When I drag the media into my timeline from the media bin within final cut it show rendering needed. When I reveal that clip in finder and drag it from the finder window directly into the timeline it shows no rendering needed. When I compare these two clips for their motion effects they both have the same settings.

Totally Bizarre and I wonder if it’s not something to do with the way Premiere creates XMLs.

Cheers,
Edwin

[Matt Harris]

Im having the identical problem. Its a huge PITA. Any solutions?

[Edwin Janzen]

Harris,

This is what I think I remember that I ended up doing. I replaced my files in Adobe Premiere first before exporting the XML.

This doesn’t explain why FCP is acting out of turn so to speak, but it was my work around.

In more detail, if made the H264 clips offline in Premiere, just by renaming the folder the clips were in. Then reconnected the clips in Premiere to my ProRes clips of the same name.

When I imported that project into Final Cut, using a ProRes timeline, everything was kosher. No render bars.

Hopefully that provides some solace in your dilemma, sir.

Cheers,
Edwin