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  • Replace Footage w/ After Effects Comp

    Posted by Rob Frese on October 6, 2014 at 8:20 pm

    Is there a way to replace source footage with an After Effects comp?

    Not replacing one clip with a comp.

    Example: I’ve taken SHOT A and chopped it up into a timeline with other footage. I now want to replace all the instances of SHOT A with an After Effects comp. Instead of going to each clip instance in the timeline, I’m trying to replace all instances of SHOT A from the project panel.

    Is it possible to do this on a MASTER CLIP basis (not just to each individual clip in a timeline) ?

    (Note: I’ve asked a similar question before but never received a response, that’s why I’m asking again)

    Alex Udell replied 11 years, 10 months ago 2 Members · 4 Replies
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  • Alex Udell

    October 7, 2014 at 4:35 pm

    Sorry…

    No….unlike AE….this is only available in the sequence.

    but if you pull your source into AE….

    do you work and render out the result…assuming the result is the same duration and proportions…

    remember to check the option to link the AE rendered file to the original ae project…this will allow easy edit of the AE comp later should you need to.

    now you can replace your ftg in Ppro with the AE processed ftg redner (which is linked to ae project)

    since durations match…your edits should all be fine as used in your sequences…

    make sense?

    hth,

    Alex Udell
    Editing, Motion Graphics, and Visual FX

  • Rob Frese

    October 8, 2014 at 4:10 pm

    Thanks for the response.

    Do you mean pull my original media sources into a dynamically linked AE comp? That seems like a waste of RAM/CPU — having the computer read the dynamic link just to read a source media file.

    What I’m essentially trying to do is create a bunch of comps in AE, then export proxy-quality renders of those comps, bring them into Premiere Pro and edit them, then once the edit is locked replace all of those AE “proxy clips” with the actual AE comps via dynamic link.

    The new Render & Replace feature in Premiere Pro 2014.1 does not accomplish this — you can only render and replace individual clips in a timeline. I’m talking about a render/replacing a master clip in the project panel that will be chopped up into multiple edits among multiple PP sequences.

    The other option is just replacing my AE proxy clips with lossless renders from AE — that’s fine and all, I was just seeing if there’s a way to skip that step.

    Dynamically linked clips just bog down the system and are too slow. People always say “just get a faster computer” but that’s not helpful. Even Adobe has conceded this with the new render/replace feature — I just wish that feature worked project wide, not just on individual clips in a single timeline. What if you want to use that clip in multiple timelines? You have to keep render/replacing? Seems like a lost opportunity.

  • Alex Udell

    October 8, 2014 at 5:34 pm

    Yep… I read what you described….and to that end that’s how I have responded…

    Your issue is really centered around a master clip already propagated to clip edits.

    the workflow I outlined does not not use dynamic link at all.

    You have footage already in premiere pro.
    You have cut that into sequences.
    You’re asking if you can replace the footage in your project panel with an AE comp. No you can not.

    What I am saying is that if you:
    1) use you original source footage in AE to and comp as you wish….out put a proxy or a final or whatever you wish to do from AE….just make sure you tick the “Include Project Link” checkbox in the output module of the render queue.

    2) now you have ended up with a new media file that you CAN link back to it via edit Original (right click).

    3) now in PPro….since you already have your original media used in 1 or more sequences all those clips in those sequences refer to media asset in your project panel.

    4) if you make that media in you project panel offline (right click) and relink (right click) to the proxied or comp’d media you created in your AE work from the steps above…then your media in the project panel will be replaced with that AE comp/proxy media…AND your associated edits will also be replaced in the sequences in which that media is used.

    all of this assumes proxy media you created in AE is same duration and proportion as you final or your edits won’t line up or the scaling would be weird.

    so it’s not using dynamic link….its just using media relinking of your source….with the benefit of the “edit original” workflow to get back to the AE project (which foes use the original ftg in the comps). So there will be no “dynamic link” overhead.

    does that make it any clearer?

    Alex Udell
    Editing, Motion Graphics, and Visual FX

  • Alex Udell

    October 8, 2014 at 6:00 pm

    [Rob Frese] “What if you want to use that clip in multiple timelines? You have to keep render/replacing? Seems like a lost opportunity.”

    well what if you nested the clip the 1st time from the sequence…

    then in the nest sequence you create your dynamic link…

    do your AE work on the dynamic link comp

    then in PPro render/replace….

    but now that render is in the nested sequence….available in the project panel…

    which you can use over and over again in any other sequence?

    this doesn’t really address a chopped up master….though….

    anyway….there should be something to get you going there….

    Alex Udell
    Editing, Motion Graphics, and Visual FX

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