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  • Render/Media files vanishing from the drive on shutdown/startup

    Posted by Sam Roberts on April 30, 2009 at 1:20 am

    I’ve read about people losing their renders on shutdown/startup and they need to re render.

    My problem is the render files and media files are vanishing completely and searches of the whole drives(s) cannot locate them or they locate them but they won’t reconnect (stay faded in the directory and cannot be chosen) The ones I’m losing seem to involve quicktimes I have made of effect stacks on the timeline.

    Is this some kind of FCP bug???…it’s a real pain in the ass having to keep remaking the EFX Quicktimes every time I restart the computer.

    New Mac Pro Tower
    latest FCP
    Caldigit local drive

    David Jakubovic replied 16 years, 3 months ago 5 Members · 11 Replies
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  • Rafael Amador

    April 30, 2009 at 1:31 am

    Hi Sam,
    Which FC version are you using?
    rafael

    http://www.nagavideo.com

  • Winston A. cely

    April 30, 2009 at 12:20 pm

    I’ve had similar problems before and they were always attributed to lack of room left on my hard drive, or they were symptoms of a hard drive that was about to fail. I might back up everything you’ve got to another hard drive (if you haven’t already).

    Winston A. Cely
    Editor/Owner | Della St. Media, LLC

    Mac Pro 3GHz Dual-Core Intel Xeon
    4 GB RAM | Final Cut Studio 5.1.4 | Aja Kona LHe

    “If you can talk brilliantly enough about a subject, you can create the consoling allusion it has been mastered.” – Stanley Kubrick

  • David Bogie

    April 30, 2009 at 2:34 pm

    [Sam Roberts] “Is this some kind of FCP bug???…it’s a real pain in the ass having to keep remaking the EFX Quicktimes every time I restart the computer. “

    It’s not a bug but we have seen it happen before. You can search for the topic but I do not believe any of the OPs ever solved it to their satisfaction. It just stopped happening. Or they never bothered to report back (which happens a lot around here so if you solve your issue, please return and tell us how you did it).

    Are you sure the files are being trashed at shutdown? Could it be happening at startup? Are they perhaps going to the trash during your edit session?

    Suggest you trash your prefs and go through a new round of disk assignments. I do not know how it could happen, but it’s possible FCP has decided to place your render scratch files in the trash.

    Winston’s observation about hard drive space is interesting; I’ve never known FCP to be smart enough to be able to tell disk capacities. It is far more likely to simply tell you there isn’t enough room rather than attempt to make room. but I’ve been surprised be weirder stuff.

    bogiesan

  • Winston A. cely

    April 30, 2009 at 2:49 pm

    I didn’t make myself completely clear. Sorry about that. What I mean is that there’s enough room to write, but very little. Since most drives need at least 15% free hard drive space to operate normally, if you go beyond that, the drive starts to slow, and I’ve had anomalies like the ones described earlier.

    Winston A. Cely
    Editor/Owner | Della St. Media, LLC

    Mac Pro 3GHz Dual-Core Intel Xeon
    4 GB RAM | Final Cut Studio 5.1.4 | Aja Kona LHe

    “If you can talk brilliantly enough about a subject, you can create the consoling allusion it has been mastered.” – Stanley Kubrick

  • Sam Roberts

    April 30, 2009 at 3:33 pm

    Hi, I’m using FCP 6.0.5

  • Sam Roberts

    April 30, 2009 at 3:46 pm

    I’m using a CalDigit HD One and it reports 1.32TB available on a 3.18TB drive. I would think that would be plenty of room left…no?

    I just took at look at the trash. It is full of Final Cut Pro Project Files all under 3MB in size. I’m new to Final Cut so I’m not sure what these files are- there are hundreds of them.

    Anyway it is files with the FIN-00000xxx designation that FCP is reporting missing.

    I don’t know if this is happening on startup or shutdown.

    Two questions. Is it safe to reset the preferences in the middle of a project?
    How do I do this reset?

    Thanks guys.

  • Winston A. cely

    April 30, 2009 at 3:51 pm

    Yeah, sounds like you’ve got enough space.

    Correct me if I’m wrong guys, but those files you’re seeing in the trash are render files. I didn’t think FCP automatically trashed old render files (just auto saves beyond a certain, user specified point).

    I’m not going to tell you to trash your preference, but I will say that I’ve done it in the middle of projects and suffered no ill effects.

    If you decide to do so, go to your User > Library > Preferences > com.apple.FinalCutPro.plist and dump that.

    Winston A. Cely
    Editor/Owner | Della St. Media, LLC

    Mac Pro 3GHz Dual-Core Intel Xeon
    4 GB RAM | Final Cut Studio 5.1.4 | Aja Kona LHe

    “If you can talk brilliantly enough about a subject, you can create the consoling allusion it has been mastered.” – Stanley Kubrick

  • Rafael Amador

    April 30, 2009 at 4:07 pm

    [Winston A. Cely] “Correct me if I’m wrong guys, but those files you’re seeing in the trash are render files. I didn’t think FCP automatically trashed old render files (just auto saves beyond a certain, user specified point).”
    Probably those are Autosave files.
    FC shouldn’t trash any render file.
    I would start by using Diskwarrior or so.
    This could be just a File-finder-info problem or so.
    Rafael
    PS: Jermy G. reported long ago that once he found FC storing the render files inside the very FC package, in the Applications folder. FC was getting fat and fat 🙂

    http://www.nagavideo.com

  • Sam Roberts

    April 30, 2009 at 4:11 pm

    Looks like those FCP files in the trash are project files from the autosave vault. I sure didn’t put them there. They are all recent too…in the last week or so. In the autosave vault itself are older fcp’s from like weeks ago. So what is causing these autosave files to go into the trash? I suspect this is what may be causing the lost render and media files.

    Any way to recover things in the trash- it’s easy in windows but I don’t see any way to do it on the MAC desktop.

  • Rafael Amador

    April 30, 2009 at 4:59 pm

    Sam,
    You set the limit of the Autosave files in the Preferences.
    When you reach the limit FC delete the old files.
    rafael

    http://www.nagavideo.com

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