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Activity Forums VEGAS Pro Rendering to MXF results in mono audio

  • Wayne Waag

    July 19, 2015 at 3:09 am

    [John Rofrano]

    Thanks so much for your detailed explanation. One thing I really enjoy about Vegas, like Photoshop, is that there is always so much more to learn, lots of new tricks, even for us old otters. You should be commended for the time you spend to give help and also your patience when so many others (including me) would simply say RTFM. Again, thanks.

    wwaag

  • Wayne Waag

    July 19, 2015 at 3:12 am

    [John Rofrano]

    Thanks so much for your detailed explanation. One thing I really enjoy about Vegas, like Photoshop, is that there is always so much more to learn, lots of new tricks, even for us old otters. You should be commended for the time you spend to give help and also your patience when so many others (including me)would simply say Read The blank Manual. Again, thanks.

    wwaag

  • John Rofrano

    July 19, 2015 at 4:31 pm

    Thanks Wayne. I appreciate the kind words. When I find a manual that’s worth reading, I’ll start directing people to it. lol 😀

    ~jr

    http://www.johnrofrano.com
    http://www.vasst.com

  • Wayne Waag

    July 19, 2015 at 5:43 pm

    [John Rofrano]

    When I find a manual that’s worth reading, I’ll start directing people to it.

    Well, why don’t you write one? Seriously. Given the seemingly shrinking base of Vegas users, it probably wouldn’t be a very successful commercial undertaking, but it might be fun. Just a thought.

    wwaag

  • Aaron Star

    July 19, 2015 at 5:53 pm

    Avid would be your best tool to work in DNxHD.mxf.

    In Vegas, HDCAM SR Lite would be your comparable MXF format with 12 channels of audio. Most other NLEs will support HDCAM and XDCAM with additional sony plugins added, some will support without plugins.

  • Herman Erasmus

    July 19, 2015 at 7:48 pm

    A big word of THANKS to Wayne and John for the help, pointers and tips they offered!

    Based upon what was said, on the limitations of SVP, I installed the trial version of Première Pro and did the project in there. Had disturbing images that it might be as complicated as PhotoShop and that again I will revert to being a cockroach in a paint factory, but alas not! When I went to Export – Media I found the correct container and codecs already present. Afraid to bork up, I rendered it with the default settings and the output sounds perfect stereo. In VLC it looks like:

    Seems to be the specs it should be? Only snag, is audio is 16 bits and not the prescribed 24.

    Rendered it then as 8track audio:

    Seems to be fine in terms of the video requirements (John please check me on that!) but I changed the audio to the other available option, being 32 bit. Unless the Codec information: PCM S24 LE denotes the actual 24bit nature and not what VLC reports as Bits per sample: 32. The previous render gave audio as PCM S16 LE.

    Again, my deepest thanks to the forum and guidance I was able to get from you guys. You video chaps are by far the friendliest lot I encountered on a forum for a very long time! 🙂

  • John Rofrano

    July 19, 2015 at 11:12 pm

    It looks right from the images. The 24 vs 32 bit seems odd but I agree that maybe VLC misinterpreted it. I’m glad that worked for you. Too bad it couldn’t be done with Vegas Pro. 🙁

    ~jr

    http://www.johnrofrano.com
    http://www.vasst.com

  • John Rofrano

    July 20, 2015 at 3:41 pm

    [Wayne Waag] “Well, why don’t you write one? Seriously. Given the seemingly shrinking base of Vegas users, it probably wouldn’t be a very successful commercial undertaking, but it might be fun. Just a thought.”

    We (VASST) did! It’s called Vegas Pro 11 Editing Workshop and was written by my good friend Douglas Spotted Eagle. 😀

    I co-wrote Instant ACID for Sony ACID Pro so I know how much work goes into writing a book.

    I aslo helped Spot write a few chapters of Instant Vegas Movie Studio.

    So while you meant it jokingly, I’ve published books on the topic and I’d like to think that the book is better than the manual.

    ~jr

    http://www.johnrofrano.com
    http://www.vasst.com

  • Herman Erasmus

    July 21, 2015 at 9:07 am

    The final product that I supplied to the broadcaster can be found on this link.
    If maybe Wayne and John could (when they do have some time) just technically inspect what I did in terms of containers and codecs and formats, and give a verdict if I stayed on the right path or ended up in die mud.

    The video track I did not do much with, just used what I was given. Audio was given a bot of enhancement.

    https://www.dropbox.com/sh/p6fmitbels7w1sz/AACXXjhXMnzLJ1Zo8GDXHEa0a?dl=0

    Just got the email back from the technical guys. *sigh* Thought I cracked it first time with your help, but seemingly I fluffed! The container and format is perfect, but ….
    EBU R128 compliance: Audio on tpmax of -3.0dB and LUFS -23lufs.
    What on earth?! Goooooooogle here I come!

  • John Rofrano

    July 21, 2015 at 11:53 am

    [Herman Erasmus] “The container and format is perfect, but ….EBU R128 compliance: Audio on tpmax of -3.0dB and LUFS -23lufs. What on earth?! Goooooooogle here I come!”

    Congratulations on getting the container correct!

    No need to Google at all. Most of us work in Broadcast. What do you need to know? Was tpmax of -3.0dB and LUFS -23lufs the target you need to hit? or the current measurement?

    Do you understand what they want? I don’t want to explain what you already know.

    Do you have Vegas Pro 13.0 because you are going to need Loudness meters and only Vegas Pro 13.0 has them.

    Let us know what you need and we’ll help you out.

    ~jr

    http://www.johnrofrano.com
    http://www.vasst.com

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