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  • Rendering Questions

    Posted by Ryan Mcrobb on February 27, 2014 at 12:54 am

    Hi Guys,

    I have 2 rendering questions for you, hopefully you’ll be able to help me out!

    I am currently rendering some AVCHD footage from a Canon Legria(called the Vixia in the US) HFS20. I need to render it for these reasons:

    * To make the video a single file, as opposed to three 2Gb files. (It was recording for about half an hour straight)
    * To add some external audio
    * Hopefully to reduce the file size, as it is just a reference video for a friend who was performing.

    The footage is 1920 x 1080 50i, 25fps. Audio is 48k 16bit. MTS files

    I tried rendering to the MPG “HD1920 x 1080 50i” setting that is in the render menu in SV12. It was painfully slow, and as it got to 100%(after about 3 hours) it crashed.

    How should I render this project?

    Question 2 – I have been shooting a lot of DSLR videos lately, and after a ridiculous amount of experimenting, the best render setting I can come up with is .wmv format, 1920 x 1080, 25fps, 8.5MBps bitrate, video quality = 100. Files created with this are about 200mb per minute.
    I have noticed that files rendered with this setting have an orange tone to them, it seems to add a bit of blush to every face in the screen. You can see an example of a video rendered with this setting here:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xefsy8H8BNM

    The peoples faces at 0:10 are a good example of the effects of the rendering, it really does look different with the origianl footage and on the Vegas timeline.
    I figure many of you shoot with DSLRs, so I am interested in learning how you approach rendering the footage.

    Thanks all, and please don’t share the link elsewhere. 🙂

    Norman Black replied 12 years, 5 months ago 3 Members · 2 Replies
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  • John Rofrano

    February 27, 2014 at 11:15 am

    [Ryan McRobb] “* To make the video a single file, as opposed to three 2Gb files. (It was recording for about half an hour straight)”

    I believe from your other post that you can eliminate this problem by importing the footage using the Device Explorer so that the separate 2GB files are stitched back together into the original recording.

    [Ryan McRobb] “* To add some external audio”

    I find that this is best done in a separate project. In other words, sync the audio with the video and save it as it’s own project. Then drop this project into your main Vegas Pro project and it will behave as a single piece of media without needing any rendering.

    [Ryan McRobb] “* Hopefully to reduce the file size, as it is just a reference video for a friend who was performing.”

    Reducing the file size means some loss in quality. AVCHD is already highly compressed so to make it smaller you’re going to need to reduce the bit-rate until you hit the desired file size and hope that the video doesn’t look too bad.

    [Ryan McRobb] “I tried rendering to the MPG “HD1920 x 1080 50i” setting that is in the render menu in SV12. It was painfully slow, and as it got to 100%(after about 3 hours) it crashed.”

    MPEG2 is less efficient than AVCHD so I would expect the file size to get larger not smaller. You need to keep these AVCHD and reduce the bit rate to get the file size down.

    [Ryan McRobb] “I figure many of you shoot with DSLRs, so I am interested in learning how you approach rendering the footage.”

    I don’t shoot DSLR but they shoot MPEG4 video so I would render to MPEG4 for Internet delivery. I would stay away from WMV. It’s a proprietary Windows format.

    ~jr

    http://www.johnrofrano.com
    http://www.vasst.com

  • Norman Black

    February 27, 2014 at 3:45 pm

    [Ryan McRobb] “I figure many of you shoot with DSLRs, so I am interested in learning how you approach rendering the footage.”

    DSLRs shoot AVC video, typically in MOV files, at pretty high bitrates. Vegas handles this natively without the need for Quicktime.

    Really rendering has everything to do with your target and nothing to do with your source.

    If you target Internet (youtube, vimeo, smugmug) then those are your constraints. These will never be near your source video quality due to their low bitrate. For internet delivery you typically can start with the Sony and Mainconcept AVC “Internet” templates.

    The only thing that really matter with source is if you want to retain full camera quality for giving to someone else, or import into another project. For a DSLR stick with the same codec, AVC, at the same bitrate as your camera. Mediainfo can give you these specifications of the camera file.

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