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  • Rendering Problems

    Posted by Kenny Albury on December 1, 2008 at 3:56 pm

    I do the editing for a very large church and I’m having problems getting my rendered file to fit on to a 4.7gb DVD.
    I do all the editing on Vegas 8 Pro. The file I start with is an AVI file and I just do basic editing. I do add a few .mov files but that’s about it. The AVI file is about 18 to 20 gigs. I’ve tried rendering the files just about everyway possible but once I get the file on DVD Arch 4.5 the file is just too big. Usually 6 to 8 gigs. I can always optimize the files but I lose too much quality. I used to use Vegas 5 and DVD Arch 2 and I never had any problems. I’m using the same settings and I can’t figure out the problem. Any suggestions?

    kenalb47

    Mike Kujbida replied 17 years, 9 months ago 3 Members · 5 Replies
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  • Douglas Spotted eagle

    December 1, 2008 at 4:35 pm

    Are you rendering to avi before dropping it into DVD architect? If so, that’s one serious quality loss right there. You want to render to MPEG from Vegas, not from a master AVI created before dropping it into DVDA.
    Render at a bitrate that allows for approximately 1.5 hours of content, it should look great, as that’s a fairly high bitrate.

    Douglas Spotted Eagle
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  • Kenny Albury

    December 1, 2008 at 5:03 pm

    No, I’m rendering it from an AVI to an MPEG-2 and that is the file that I’m dropping into DVDA and it’s still too big. The problem is I think I’m using the wrong template. Also,I don’t know if I should use a variable bit rate or a constant bit rate. I want to have good quality but I’ll sacrifice some of it as long as it will fit onto my DVD. All I want is an MPG that will fit on to a 4.7 DVD for mass duplication. Thanks for your help.

    kenalb47

  • Mike Kujbida

    December 1, 2008 at 5:43 pm

    Kenny, you’ll get better fianl quality by rendering directly to MPEG-2.
    If youre video is over 70 min. long, then use a bitrate calculator to determine optimum settings.
    Please check the Best Render Option for HD to DVD and VOB file too big for its type? threads were this gets into more specifics as well as a recommendation for a bitrate calculator and how to use it.

  • Kenny Albury

    December 1, 2008 at 7:00 pm

    One more question. What rendering template should I use. Can I use DVD NTSC or do I have to use DVD Architect NTSC Video Stream. If so how do I render the audio separately. When I used Vegas 5 I just used the default template and made a few changes to it.(I had to upgrade because we installed a Blackmagic capture card but I’m not capturing with it yet.) I just don’t understand how the rendered file can be 3 to 4 gigs and then when I drop it in DVDA it jumps up to 5 to 7 gigs. I’m sure it’s just the way I’m rendering it but I need a little help on what template to use. By the way, my videos are about a hour and a half and a menu with an intro and 1 menu. It’s just for scene selection. I’m not looking for super high quality but something that will look good on a large screen TV.
    Thanks,

    kenalb47

  • Mike Kujbida

    December 1, 2008 at 9:57 pm

    [Kenny Albury] “What rendering template should I use.”

    Use the DVD Architect NTSC Video Stream for video and AC-3 for your audio renders.
    As long as you give both of them the same surname (i.e. myvideo.mpg & myvideo.ac3) and render them to the same folder, DVD Architect will automatically load the audio as soon as it loads the video.

    “I just don’t understand how the rendered file can be 3 to 4 gigs and then when I drop it in DVDA it jumps up to 5 to 7 gigs.”

    It’s because DVDA is lying to you.
    This program has a long history of incorrectly reporting file sizes.
    AS long as you know the size is correct, ignore the warning, tell it to “Prepare” and it’ll go right over the warning.

    “By the way, my videos are about a hour and a half…”

    Use the Bitrate calculator I refer to in the threads I mentioned in an earlier post.
    It’ll tell you what the bitrate should be if you’re using CBR or VBR.
    Once you know these values, you will have to be customized in the render template option box.
    This process is discussed in the previously mentioned threads as well.

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