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  • Rendering Decreases Quality? Photoshop to FCP question.

    Posted by Troy Lanier on January 20, 2009 at 6:41 am

    I am trying to use a PS image in FCP. The image looks great in PS and terrible in FCP. It also looks bad on the client’s 7o in screen.

    Q1: Is photoshop the wrong tool for building a graphic like this? What is the right tool?
    Q2:Is there a way to get something beautiful in PS to look the same in FCP DVCPROHD? In the past I have imported, and then rendered and images looked great. This one fails.
    Q3: If there is a way, what is the proper workflow?

    Details:

    1. I have a 1920×1080 image in photoshop, and it looks great. It is only composed of solid colors and text.

    Here is an example of the text at 100 percent and an example at 800 percent.



    2. When imported to FCP into a DCPROHD timeline, before rendering, it looks worse, as expected.

    3. But when I render it, it looks even worse with lots of artifacts. Specifically, the blue area has lots of blues, and this looks terrible on the 70 in screen the client has purchased.

    PS CS3
    FCP 5.1.4

    Thanks

    David Bogie replied 17 years, 3 months ago 3 Members · 4 Replies
  • 4 Replies
  • David Roth weiss

    January 20, 2009 at 6:59 am

    Go to Sequence>>Settings and change the Compressor to ProRes or ProRes (HQ) and re-render. If that doesn’t make it look better you need to change the design.

    BTW, what type of Photoshop file did you save to and import?

    David Roth Weiss
    Director/Editor
    David Weiss Productions, Inc.
    Los Angeles

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  • Troy Lanier

    January 20, 2009 at 7:11 am

    created as a rgb 1920×1080, probably should have started with a PSD preset for DVCPRO HD.

    I have saved it as a flat psd, tiff, jpg and png. All have a little different result, but none anywhere near the quality of the PS original

    I don’t think I have access to pro res or pro res HQ as I am using FCP 5.1.4

    In the past, all of the hi res photos and scans have always looked good without having to resort to the new pro res or pro res HQ. hmmmmm?

    Thanks!

  • David Roth weiss

    January 20, 2009 at 7:22 am

    Forget about the past, this is now… DVCPro is clearly compressing the crap out of that image and discarding huge chucks of pixels.

    So, change the Compressor to 8-bit uncompressed and re-render. And again, if that doesn’t fix the problem you have to think about fixing your design.

    David Roth Weiss
    Director/Editor
    David Weiss Productions, Inc.
    Los Angeles

    POST-PRODUCTION WITHOUT THE USUAL INSANITY ™

    A forum host of Creative COW’s Apple Final Cut Pro, Business & Marketing, and Indie Film & Documentary forums.

  • David Bogie

    January 21, 2009 at 7:41 pm

    Pixels is pixels in video. The codec you choose for production is based on your needs for quality but yoru delivery codec based on your playback requirements.

    Compression uses algorithms that throw away what the codec assumes are unnecessarily complex iterations of useless information. Can’t be helped, that’s why we call it compression; all you can do is try to minimize the compression but that increases the file size and the bitrate needed to play it back smoothly and reliably.

    if your text originated as vectors, it has to rasterized. If you save out of PS as a tiff or jpg you will see the same kind of compression artifacts at the pixel edges of your text.

    bogiesan

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