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  • Rendering as ProRes or XDCAM 422 on Windows.

    Posted by John Davies on September 6, 2011 at 12:48 pm

    We have quite a large project about to start, some edits are already underway but our main 2hr edit will be starting very soon.

    We need to supply our distributor with either Apple Prores or XDCAM 422 encoded files. I’ve never worked with either of these codecs and just realising why…

    So Prores is out of the question, right? As we only have Windows machines to work on (Premiere CS5). So it looks like XDCAM might be our only option.

    I’ve done a lot of searching around but was after a more specific answer or options to my problem. What are my options for delivering 2hrs of material from PP.CS5 in XDCAM format, on Windows. Where or how do I obtain the codec and how much is it going to set us back?

    From what I’ve seen these only come with FCP, is that right?

    Thanks,

    Matthew Galvin replied 12 years, 5 months ago 7 Members · 10 Replies
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  • Vince Becquiot

    September 6, 2011 at 5:42 pm

    Hi John,

    Prores will work on a Windows platform, provided they have a newer version of Quicktime, or the Prores decoder installed.

    Just send a quick sample to make sure that your export settings are correct and that the Machine will handle the codec.

    XDCAM Wrapped in Quicktime on the other hand will probably not work, at least it didn’t in CS4.

    Vince Becquiot

    Kaptis Studios
    San Francisco – Bay Area

  • Shane Ross

    September 6, 2011 at 7:08 pm

    The DECODER will work. The Windows machine can VIEW the ProREs files. But to ENCODE to ProRes, you need FCP…and that runs on Macs only.

    Shane

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  • Vince Becquiot

    September 6, 2011 at 7:18 pm

    Thanks Shane, I completely misread this post 🙁

    Vince Becquiot

    Kaptis Studios
    San Francisco – Bay Area

  • James Barton

    September 6, 2011 at 10:20 pm

    You can export to XDCAM HD without any additional codecs thru AME–ProRes ENCODING is currently only available on the Mac
    platform thru Final Cut

  • John Davies

    September 9, 2011 at 11:56 am

    Thanks for the responses, guys.

    So it looks like XDCAM is our only option if we’re to stick with the Windows machines…

    James, under which export settings would I find the XDCAM options? Have been away for a few days but when I return tonight I’ll check this out, don’t recall seeing the option for XDCAM when I was last looking.

    If ProRes becomes compulsory, we could export as uncompressed Quicktime files and then export these as ProRes from a colleague’s FCP setup, right?

  • James Barton

    September 9, 2011 at 2:37 pm

    The export for XDCAM is under an MXF option–my machine is at home so I will check this out later this evening and get back to you–your ProRes idea would also work but even better would be filing a feature request for ProRes export from within PrPro–more and more it seems as though manufacturers are incorporating ProRes in their devices so hopefully Adobe will get in on the action.

  • Jim Wiseman

    September 9, 2011 at 5:04 pm

    The various flavors of ProRes are great codecs. Anything to promote them would be welcome. Don’t know if the hang up here is with Apple or Adobe, but it should be addressed as soon as possible. AJA uses it as a major component in their workflow, both for recording and editing. So do many other vendors. I’m a Mac user, so it isn’t an immediate concern to me, but with the large base of Windows users on Premiere already, and with the influx of FCP users like myself, ProRes support must become a high priority.

    Jim Wiseman
    Sony PMW-EX1,Pana AJ-D810 DVCPro, DVX-100, Nikon D7000, Final Cut Studio 2 and 3, Media 100 Suite 2.0.2, Premiere Pro 5.0 and 5.5, AJA ioHD, AJA Kona LHi, Avid MC, Hexacore MacPro 3.33 Ghz 24Gb RAM 120GB SSD, Macbook Pro 17″ 2011 2.2 Ghz Quadcore i7 8Gb SSD, G5 Quadcore PCIe

  • Tom Daigon

    September 9, 2011 at 5:49 pm

    The hang up is with Apple. They only provide PC users the ability to playback/decode Prores. They do not have the ability to encode Prores on the PC. Apple doesnt provide them that functionality.

    Tom Daigon
    Avid DS / PrP / After Effects Editor
    http://www.hdshotsandcuts.com
    Mac Pro 3,1
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  • James Barton

    September 10, 2011 at 1:42 am

    John–

    The export setting is within the MXF OP1a format list. I did a test encode of a PrPro sequence. It encoded fine and imported without issue back into PrPro–HOWEVER–Sony’s XDCAM Browser app did not recognize the file properly and would not open it. You should definitely try a test encode to make sure whatever playout-device you are encoding for will recognize the file. I am using CS 5.5 on a Windows PC.

  • Matthew Galvin

    November 27, 2013 at 8:04 pm

    FFMPEG works great to render ProResLT on Windows. I am working on a directshow solution (exoprt directly from Premiere) as well and will post my progress.

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