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  • Rendering 1440×1080 and 1980×1080 WMV from AVCHD

    Posted by John Smith on August 19, 2010 at 8:41 pm

    Hi guys, I am brand new to using Sony Vegas 9 for editing AVCHD video and could really do with some advice on the following please:

    I am recording HD Video at HA1080 (or sometimes 1080p) on my Panasonic HD TM700 Camcorder and the footage I am filming is for downloadable HD clips on the net. Each video will have a total final edited running time of around 4 to 7 minutes maximum.

    I want the resolution to be 1440×1080 or 1980×1080 in WMV and MOV formats.

    So my problem is which render settings to use, to keep each clip no more than a maximum datasize of 300 – 350 mb, without losing a lot of the HD quality.

    Once I have a template, I can use it each time as I will be rendering clips each week as site updates.

    I also need to make an FLV file at 640×360 of each clip for instant preview playback via JW Player, but for some reason I cant find an FLV render option within Sony Vegas, so how swould you suggest I render to this format?

    Any advice would be REALLY appreciated

    many thanks!

    John Rofrano replied 15 years, 9 months ago 3 Members · 6 Replies
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  • Danny Hays

    August 19, 2010 at 9:04 pm

    I think you may get smaller file size with MP4 and keep the HD quality. Look at 1080P youtube videos, their usualy great quality and their MP4 format, and streamable. Or experiment rendering a 1440 x 1080 wmv, 5 minutes, and drop the bitrate until you get the file size needed. 1440 x 1080 has less pixels and will be smaller than 1920 x 1080, as 1440 x 1080 pixels are not square, 1.333 x 1 where 1920 x 1080 has more pixels, square. Don’t think you’ll get an .mov small enough (file size) and still keep good HD quality.

  • John Rofrano

    August 19, 2010 at 9:07 pm

    The answer to all of your questions is to forget about WMV, MOV, and FLV and render your video to H.264/MPEG4 instead. Both Windows and Mac users can view them and the JW Player will play them.

    Use the Sony AVC render type with the appropriate “Internet 16:9 HD…” template which is specifically designed for YouTube/Vimeo/Web based video.

    ~jr

    http://www.johnrofrano.com
    http://www.vasst.com

  • John Smith

    August 20, 2010 at 3:39 pm

    Thanks guys for your help. I will definately try the H.264/MPEG4 for the instant play/preview in JW Player.

    However, formats for people to be able to download the full HD video would still need to be WMV and Mov woudlnt they, as people can not simply download and play MPEG4’s, right?

    Basically I need the smaller instant preview file type for the JW player then two formats that are downloadable at full HD size (1440×1080 for example).

    By the way, I am recording at 1980×1080 in HA1080 format which is the best new project settings to use when making the new project in Sony Vegas? Its a bit of guess work at the moment.

    Many thanks again!

  • John Rofrano

    August 21, 2010 at 2:05 am

    However, formats for people to be able to download the full HD video would still need to be WMV and Mov woudlnt they, as people can not simply download and play MPEG4’s, right?

    Nope. Everyone on Windows, Mac, and Linux and play MP4 files with any number of players. MP4 is a platform agnostic standard.

    By the way, I am recording at 1980×1080 in HA1080 format which is the best new project settings to use when making the new project in Sony Vegas? Its a bit of guess work at the moment.

    Use the HD 1920×1080 preset or use the Match Media Settings to match the project exactly to your footage.

    ~jr

    http://www.johnrofrano.com
    http://www.vasst.com

  • John Smith

    August 21, 2010 at 4:49 pm

    Thanks very much John.

    You said that both windows users and mac users will be able to download and play MP4’s, but will some people have to download a specific player before they can do this? As I tested a rendered mp4 last night on four PC’s, as follows:

    1) One was my Vista machine which automatically played it in Quicktime player.
    2) the other was an XP laptop, which it wouldnt play on, so I had to download Quicktime player (which took a while to do!)
    3)I also tested it on a newer Windows 7 PC, which it played automatically via Quicktime player.
    4) but finally I tested it on another Vista machine and it didnt play again, so I had to download the Quicktime player again.

    The videos I am offering for download are within a paid members section of the website, so I am just a bit concerned that people will download the MP4 video, double click it, then it won’t play because they will be expecting it to auto play in windows media player and I will receive a lot of emails sayin “the video won’t play” etc. plus people may not want to download an additional player.

    Also, is Quicktime player even the best player to have for MP4’s?

    Do you think it would be better to render to WMV (for windows users)along with MP4 (for mac and Windows users) too, to cover both scenarios?

    I want to have the videos in a modern format, but at the same time make the files easy to view without any inconvenience to paying website subscribers.

    Any other suggestions?

    Many thanks again for all your help with this.

  • John Rofrano

    August 22, 2010 at 9:11 pm

    You do have to download the Quicktime player (or VLC or some other player) to be able to play MP4 videos on a Windows PC so if that is your concern then you should offer WMV to your Windows customers who may have limited web experience.

    ~jr

    http://www.johnrofrano.com
    http://www.vasst.com

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