Rendered Blur in video in video with SVP 13 (Picture in Picture)

[John Rofrano]

[Simon Weaver] “Next I use event pan/crop, maintain aspect ratio, then reduce the size of the video so I get the Picture in Picture effect.”

Try using Track Motion instead of Pan/Crop. Track Motion works best for Picture-in-Picture. Then use a Sony Border effect to add the border instead of Cookie Cutter. See if you get better results.

~jr

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[John Rofrano]

[Simon Weaver] “To clarify again, the problem occurs on the “rendered” video output from Sony Vegas – Nothing to do with YouTube at this stage.”

Ah, OK that wasn’t clear. I thought YouTube was causing the problem.

So what are you render settings?

~jr

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[Simon Weaver]

Hi John
Thanks for this 🙂
Let me see if I can do this and get back to you Sir.

Simon

[Simon Weaver]

It is ok John, not a problem.
The first person to respond said FRAPS was the issue, but I have downloaded another piece of software to capture my PC Screen, but although the .MP4 output from this software is 100% perfect, it seems to be the render that is causing the issue.

I have tried so many settings, that I am now just not sure what to do.

The raw .MP4 file is 1920 x 1080 60FPS.
Within Sony Vegas I have a CUDA Based GPU Template (I have tried CPU rendering, same results).
This is what I have:

Hope this works!

[Mark Barton]

I would try the higher bitrate. You have it here at 10Mbps for 1080p, try bumping that up to 16Mbps to see if that helps and confirm if the problem really is bitrate.

[Norman Black]

I agree. 10Mbps is kinda low for a 1080p60 source, with the jerky movements of game footage. That is probably closer to okay for 30p.

[Simon Weaver]

Hi Norman
Thanks for your reply.
I did create a new template. I spent 5 hours testing and playing around with this, but finally came to some bitrate settings that seemed to work, but I am not sure if I have just gone overkill or if this is about right.
Hopefully you see my new template here.

I was unsure about the Maximum and Average Bitrate should be set to … for example should one be higher and the other lower?

[Simon Weaver]

Hi Mark
Thanks for the reply.
I ended up at 50,000,000! I was on 20,000,000 but it was not that great.

This is my new render template:

One thing that I am also conscious about, is that my “Picture in Picture” is also probably just too small, so I need to enlarge on this!

Simon

[John Rofrano]

[Simon Weaver] “I was unsure about the Maximum and Average Bitrate should be set to … for example should one be higher and the other lower?”

Absolutely one should be higher than the other! This is important to understand because you have defeated the purpose of using Variable Bit Rate (VBR). The Average bit rate is the allowable average for the entire video and determines the size of your file. The Maximum bit rate determines how many bits are allowed on any given frame that needs it. This allows frames that need more bits to use them while frames that need less bits don’t waste them. The Two Pass option allows the bit distribution to be more accurate. By setting Max and Avg the same you are, in effect, using a Constant Bit Rate (CBR) which is the other option you didn’t use. So if you really want 50/50 then use CBR 50,000,000.

~jr

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[Simon Weaver]

Hi guys
An update…..
Check out my latest video…. give us your thoughts!
I have made the picture in picture better.
I dropped cookie clicker (or cutter) and got my own border as a layer now.
Still runs 60fps, so you need good internet connection, but it does look a lot better.

Video is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJouj444HPI
When you compare to my original Star Wars video, I hope you see a difference.

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