Render Deleted Manually Gives “Not Found” Message And Then “General Error”

[Michael Gissing]

Lenard, best way is to use FCP render manager to delete the render files. That way FCP knows the files are deleted. Open FCP but not the project. Then try opening Render Manager and delete the files there (even though you have already manually deleted them) and see if that fixes the problem.

[Lenard Zsolt]

hmmm it sounds intersting what you are saing, but how can FCP recognize something that phisically it’s not there?
i mean that i’m trying to look at the problem in a logical way, even if sometimes logic has no good ending 🙂
I appreciate ur kindness, i will come back with a feedback as soon as i get to work tomorrow 🙂 thx

[Michael Gissing]

[Lenard Zsolt] “i’m trying to look at the problem in a logical way”

That is a very frustrating way to deal with computer software. Try being a bit more lateral and less logical. My idea may not work but it is based on many years of finding solutions to software ‘logic’.

Software is more often like a dog chasing its tail which is a seemingly illogical thing to do but software is always full of loops that return to task when and/or/if conditions are met. When they are not met, they chase their tails.

[Lenard Zsolt]

working so much with PREMIERE PRO i guess my logic shaped after that workflow, so some parts of FCP does not match with PREMIERE logic if i can say that, but every problem MUST be a thing that will make us like humans be smarter and evolve… but getting back on earth now that project of mine is veeeeery big and i’m workin’ like 7 months on it…
so i have to fix it somehow… ohh.. sometimes it’s tooo much technology around … 🙂

[Shane Ross]

Render files are as physical as Word documents…applications. They are actual files that exist on your media drive. They are real.

Now, if you just deleted them, FCP would say “HEY! Where did these go? They are missing…want to reconnect?” Or something like that. And then you can say “sure, let me show you where they are,” or “no…forget about them.’

UNLESS…

Unless you exported quicktime REFERENCE movies of sequences. Meaning you exported a QT movie and didn’t check the little MAKE SELF CONTAINED box. When you do that, you export files, that are typically smaller than self contained files, that REFERENCE existing media…captured media and render files. Now, if you reimport these files into FCP…and then DELETE the render files…suddenly those reference QT files can’t work…because media they are referencing is gone. ONE FILE gets deleted, and these refuse to work. And you get this constant error message “Searching for media in file” or “general error.”

SOLUTION

Delete those imported QT reference files from the FCP project. And refrain from that practice. If you want to reimport QT files that you export from sequences…make them self contained.

And yes, every editing application has it’s own logic. When I go back and forth from FCP to Avid, I have to do a lot of gear switching in my head…and wake up a lot of different muscle memory.

Shane

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[Lenard Zsolt]

… standing here an ideea just hit me. FCP must have somewhere a script where he keeps the log of renders, what if i can find that log and erase from there that piece of “memory” from where he knows that the phisical render files are there… i mean that i can fool him and then he will re-render whithout knowing that he rendered them some time ago… hmmm … that ofcours if the RENDER MANAGER can’t solve the problem..

[Lenard Zsolt]

about what are u are talking it is logical, that’s why i acted like that. The movies wore captured in PREMIERE PRO then converted in MOV-DV 48 Khz with Mpegstream so they are self contained i belive.
I’ve imported them in FCP like native DV with the sequence set for PAL-DV 48 Khz. I’ve started editing, using different type of effects, rendered them with APPLE+R, sound was converted from mp3 in WAV 48 KHZ.
…i erased the render files then… (i wanned to explane my workflow), maybe it helps better 🙂 (and by the way THX alot guys, it’s nice that people like u exists)

[Shane Ross]

I wonder if it has to do with the media being captured in Premiere. I don’t know…just pondering.

Shane

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[Lenard Zsolt]

well theoretically PREMIERE has no “self contained” option, that means it’s by default self contained… MpegStream worked with it whithout problem (and it has standard 48 KHZ DV-PAL) … this is why i don’t understand what can the problem be…
as I said earlyer.. FCP must have somewhere a script (a log) where he memorize his steps.. one of the steps must be “rendering”, what if i can find that file, erase it and then re-render… it seems very logical to me.. I’ve done it once in AVID when i moved some media from a PC to another PC and it was an IDENTITY problem (other user), back then i modified the script.. hmmm

[Shane Ross]

Well, if there is a “script,” you’ll have to find it on your own. We are mainly creative editors, or technical editors…not code monkeys. I certainly have no clue about this stuff.

Shane

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